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Channel Data Missing

I'm steering blind!

         

Pengi

8:25 am on Sep 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Checking my stats this morning - I found I blown my previous best Friday out of the water - a 33% increase in earnings from less traffic. Checking my channels to find where this is coming from, I found that most of them had no data.

I have data for the top two tiers of my channel structure, and the odd individual page I could fit in to 200 channels, but every single third tier channel is missing!

So I have:
domain/widgets/
domain/widgets/colours/
& domain/widgets/colours/red/new-red-widget.htm
but I'm missing:
domain/widgets/colours/red/
domain/widgets/colours/blue/
etc.

I've checked and they're all showing as active. First time I've noticed the new "Channel interface".

Anyone else seeing this?
Any ideas how to fix it? It was bad enough with only 200 channels - this makes every thing complete guess work.

trannack

8:54 am on Sep 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Congrats on the 33%! Everything normal here in France.

Pengi

1:49 pm on Sep 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Is it only me losing visibility of channels?

I've re-set them all to active (although they were showing as active anyway) but still I have no data for my 3rd tier channels?

Trannack
Nice to know their working in France - what is your channel structure like?

ashii

1:55 pm on Sep 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I could be due to www issues.
if you have added channel as
www.domain.com/widgets/colours/red/ then visitors using
domain.com/widgets/colours/red/ will not be counted on that channel.

trannack

3:43 pm on Sep 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Channel structure - whats that?

Maxima

4:07 pm on Sep 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Im having the same issue.

URL Channel data is not being shown properly. (although custom channels are)

Only a few URL channels show up and most dont.. I had made a topic about this yesterday but no one replied to it :(

[webmasterworld.com...]

Yesterday I had a bad day, but today is looking to be _very_ good, but no complete channel data today too :(

[edit - I checked and I am having the exact same problem as you.. only two tiers or direct htm's show, not /dir/dir/dir/dir/]

[edited by: Maxima at 4:35 pm (utc) on Sep. 30, 2006]

Pengi

5:00 pm on Sep 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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ashii

all the channels I'm not seeing today or yesterday were working correctly untin sometime during Thursday.

I know there is traffic, because all of my site appears on one and only one of my level 3 channels, and the traffic shows at the next level up.

trannack

by "channel structure" I mean the hierachy of channels I have set up that mirrors the directory structure within my site. My top level channels "relates to" a number of level 2 channels. Each level 2 channel "relates to" a number of level 3 channels - these are the ones that are missing. Some of the level 3 channels are also associated with channels for individual pages - these are showing.

Maxima

I'm glad to see that it isn't just me. I e-mailed G, but I expect it will be tuesday before I get a "useful" response.

[edited by: Pengi at 5:00 pm (utc) on Sep. 30, 2006]

Maxima

5:19 pm on Oct 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Im wondering if we are the only 2 people with this problem? Or I guess most people dont use so many directories :P

I use Joomla! so it automatically makes pages like /content/view/123/456/ (looks like 4 directories), so most of my url channels dont show any data :(

I emailed G when I noticed the problem, hopefully will get a reply soon :)

Pengi

6:49 am on Oct 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I guess people with less than 200 Adgroups don't need to use channels for a third level directory, and people with a lots more AdGroups already have to make do with second level directories.

Still I can't believe we're the only ones affected - maybe some others will notice it afte the weekend.

I'm hoping for a response today to my e-mail to G, but meanwhile, anything here from ASA would be appriciated - even an indicataion as to whether it's a bug or an unannounced change would help me plan what to do.

stepper

2:01 pm on Oct 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm getting the same issue. Out of 200 active channels, only 2 are being shown, has happened since Friday.

wyweb

2:17 pm on Oct 2, 2006 (gmt 0)



I have 45 channels. All are showing pretty much what I'd expect to see at this time of day. In other words - no problems.

Pengi

5:13 pm on Oct 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Is there anyone who is receiving data for a URL channel of the form www.domain/widgets/colours/red

Pengi

7:08 am on Oct 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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AdSenseAdvisor - can you say if this is a change or a bug?

If it's a change - I'll at least try to make better use of my 200 channels by targeting individual pages - If it's a bug, I'll keep my fingers crossed that I don't drive off over a cliff edge before it's fixed.

stepper

9:31 am on Oct 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm pretty sure its not a change - more like a delay in reporting or a slight bug. URL targeting definitely allows individual page tracking and deeper directory structures.

trannack

9:45 am on Oct 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think what Pengi is getting at is that it was working fine - now it is not working at all.

danimal

7:05 pm on Oct 3, 2006 (gmt 0)



>>>Is there anyone who is receiving data for a URL channel of the form www.domain/widgets/colours/red<<<

i am getting stats for url channel data, afaik it's working o.k.

Pengi

7:09 pm on Oct 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I am getting stats for URL channel data
- except for the URL channes that are for a 3rd level directory (most of my channels) These were all working until sometime Thursday - then they all stopped.

Has anyone got channels still providing data that are of the form www.domain/level1/level2/level3?

Chapman

8:47 pm on Oct 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Pengi-

This may not be much help but it may be something to consider. When I started a redesign of my site last year I had begun to implement a rather agressive directory structure and then started reading about possible issues that could arise passing level two. I subsequently backed off having any .html files more than two directories off the root just as protective measure.

Some of the kinds of things that were being discussed as concerns can be brought up with a Webmaster World search on "directory levels ". Brett_Tabke's post "Successful Site in 12 Months with Google Alone" (still a great read at [webmasterworld.com...] states:

All pages should be linked to more than one other page on your site, and not more than 2 levels deep from root.

Google may have arbitrarily decided to stop going any deeper than the second level with URL channels, for reasons of speed or capacity (or whatever), which would account for what you're seeing.

Or... I could be completely "off the map" on this one!

Regards-

Chapman

[edited by: Chapman at 9:06 pm (utc) on Oct. 3, 2006]

Pengi

9:20 pm on Oct 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Chapman
Thanks for the information about directories more than 2 levels down from the root - I wasn't aware of this. I tould be a lot of work now to fix it - I have about 750 pages in directories 3 levels down from the root.

I'm still hopeful that this is a bug rather than a change. I've had 2 e-mails from G in response to my query - both say they're looking in to it and will get back to me.

P

Chapman

9:44 pm on Oct 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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a lot of work now to fix it

I can believe that! My post was just FYI and certainly not a recommended solution.

Glad to hear Google has been responsive... keep us posted!

Chapman

Maxima

3:41 am on Oct 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I just checked my stats and it seems to have been fixed :)

Pengi

6:48 am on Oct 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It's a miracle!
I'm cured!
I can see again!

Thak you G