I removed AS codes from my pages .

[GoldenHammer]

I decided to run a "start over" experiment. AS codes was removed from over 95% of pages of my site except those best earning pages that used to generate about 20% of the total earnings.

Now see what is going on, I would add AS codes back "bit by bit" to some more "good" pages if it does run into a new trend.

[trannack]

Interesting - let us know how it goies. Did you also delete your competitive ad filter?

[Quadrille]

Fascinating. You've chosen to deny yourself adsense income from your 'lower earning pages', but you are going to gradually reintroduce adsense to those pages.

That really is fascinating. Thanks for sharing that item. :)

Just out of interest, Why?

Do confirm when things are finally back to where you started ;)

[GoldenHammer]

[...Just out of interest, Why? ]

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AS has to learn me again and I give myself one more chance to learn AS too before I confirm to opt out the game completely .... :P

[trannack]

Are you going to replace the code in exactly the same format? ie same size, colour position etc or are you going to change anything? Because I also really can't see the point unless you are going to change something.

[Khensu]

I have actually did a similar thing a few months back. The high traffic of my index page cause my account to get smartpriced, I removed the ads from the homepage and took the entire folder and droped it on the backside of another site that is in development. That shook the smart pricing and I emptied my filter and started over. It was fast and it worked well.

[GoldenHammer]

[...Are you going to replace the code in exactly the same format? ie same size, colour position etc or are you going to change anything? Because I also really can't see the point unless you are going to change something. ]

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I am in another channel different from yours .... :P

[mack]

This could work out pretty well for you. By workign out what pages are converting well and what pages are not, you can place Adsense only on your well performign pages. Then you are generaly converting well and are more likely to avoid the pitfalls of low ctr for example being smart priced or displaying only poor paying ads.

Mack.

[GoldenHammer]

[...This could work out pretty well for you.]

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I am not surprise to see an immediate effect of double CTR, three times ECPM and averaged EPC returned to where I consider "normal". Page impressions dropped about 80%, thus the total earning just remains the same where I suspect that is actually a *** PRESET *** value based on some factors Google assigned to a site not much relevant to your optimization nor traffics .... :P

If my best pages still can not work out or keep a decline trend, I can confirm it is not possible to "re-train" the existing AS model, there are hard factors coded by Google instead of the optimization.

[GoldenHammer]

[Interesting - let us know how it goies. Did you also delete your competitive ad filter? ]

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I cleared the filter list on the second day both CTR and ECPM dropped 50%, averaged EPC dropped 40%, total earning dropped 40%.

This confirms that the MFA is still poor for my sector. I can't live without an effective filter list.... :P

[edited by: GoldenHammer at 2:50 am (utc) on Sep. 25, 2006]

[GoldenHammer]

I have with this for about one week, now with about 30% the original impressions it returns 50% of my best earning ever and more than double of the CTR and eCPM with "reasonable" averaged PPC. I suspect these are "fairly" nice figures that "feeds" the AS algorthm.

I will keep that goes for the next week in order to confirm it is a new "stand point" to start with again, then continuing the experiment by further optimization - perphas better call it de-optimization .... :P

[photo200]

interesting.

you should be completely fed up by AS earnings
allowing such experiment.

[GoldenHammer]

[...you should be completely fed up by AS earnings ]

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I doubt if it can "recover" to the best ever earning, I suspect it is a preset ranking that guides the IAS (Intelligent Ads Distributing) from Google. I would expect to see a stable incoming doesn't matter the traffics to my site nor the optimization I am doing.

What I would like to achieve is to confirm that and free the space from AS for other income sources, it is not justified to spend that much effort to due with AS in particular with its limited features for publishers.