Niche Site VS Trash Pages

EPC goes down with that?

[dhaliwal]

I have around 1000 articles which are in a niche category and they are good content pages.

Now as many people offer directory pages from ODP, i also recently made such pages, now the page count has gone from 1000, to 10000

but those 9k pages, that are new, i treat them as trash as i did nothing to make them, just a script.

Now as these pages also get some new visitors, i think google is now lowering my site rankings and it has caused my EPC to drop.

I don't know if this is the real reason for EPC drop.

I would like to get advice, if i am making those trash pages, should i have another domain for those pages?

[ExpLarry]

I would put those pages on a completely different server, then sink that server to the bottom of the Barents Sea. This will help satisfy the average Internet user's insatiable appetite for ODP clones. ;-).

Seriously, why dilute original pages with "junk" (no disrespect to ODP meant)?

[dillonstars]

Try seperating the two types of content into two different AdSense channels. That way you will be able to see if the drop in EPC has been across the board, or if it is just on the ODP side (which I suspect it is).

[europeforvisitors]

Now as these pages also get some new visitors, i think google is now lowering my site rankings and it has caused my EPC to drop.

Interesting hypothesis. It certainly would make sense for Google to include overall site CTR and site conversion factors in its payout algorithm, since that might discourage publishers from collectively generating millions of filler pages that make it harder for Google to deliver quality search results.

[dhaliwal]

well,
i just experimented this new script for odp using directory.

but to my surprise, i got around 20 % traffic increase with just this thing.

Now i would not like to part with that traffic.

but i would like not to take chances with EPC.

And only i am calling these pages as junk pages, cause most of them not even relate to the original content of my website, i mean these all 9 k pages are about everything in the world.

But i think these pages have higher keyword density for any search term, they have all the keywords in bold, and most of these pages are not having extra keywords, if one analyse these pages, they are really and naturally optimised for search engines.

I have one more question. If i add these pages to my site and keep them there, i won't place adsense code on these, so google adsense should not cause any troubles with my EPC.

Would look for sensible answers and help from some senior members on this forum.

Dhaliwal

[ExpLarry]

dhaliwal, no offense meant on my part, and apologies if any was taken.

Your 20% traffic increase is not to be sniffed at. However you will need to address some issues:
- does the ODP-clone generated traffic have the same "quality" as traffic to your main pages? Does it translate into real traffic for you?
- the data and script might be free, but will it incur hidden costs, such as "diluting" your original pages or putting you at risk of content duplicatio penalties?

Personally I would advise against dumping large amounts of unrelated data into an existing site - on the page figures you provide it is turning a 100% original site into a 10% original site. You could put the data onto a different domain, but where would the value for you be? (And it has to be said - the last thing the Internet needs is yet more ODP mirrors...)

On the other hand - have you considered extracting the segments of ODP relevant to your main pages and blending them in so they represent additional value for your visitors?

[dhaliwal]

well larry,
thanks for that view.

actually there are many odp clones on the internet, but mine was a bit different one, i am not putting the ODP thing as such, but am more into search of ODP data.

Well i am also thinking to make yet another domain with the ODP data and lets see if it earns something good, actually whatever it earns will be earned with no pain from my end.

and yes, i have made a small part of ODP thats related to my website content.

[rish]

Hi dhaliwal

I am in a reverse position to you. I run adsense on an ODP mirror and the effective CPM and EPC are higher for the ODP generated pages than any other section of my sites. It is a little disheartening that this content I did nothing to create earns comparatively much more than the rest of my site, but them's the breaks of having a "cheap" hobby ;)

It says more about the low ad bids for the rest of my site than the high ad bids in targeted areas of the directory but I haven't seen any effect on EPC in either area since Goggle said they were starting "smart pricing."

I've run adsense over 9 months on all pages and the ODP content is on my main domain in /directory/

[dhaliwal]

its great and a good relief rish that ODP generated pages are having good EPC

And in my case even, i am seeing the EPC is improving,

maybe only the first week of july was bit lower, but things have improved a lot in past 2 days as far as EPC is concerned.