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July 11 2006: Terrible CTR . I'm finished

         

Hemanth

7:21 am on Jul 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

I've a forum and about 250 daily visitors. My least CTr reported yesterday is 0.14%.

I'm dead. I'm trying my best for proper blending of ads and seoing urls. But Forums are real jerks. They pay the least.
Now i'm using a LeaderBoard just below the first post. Any better positions.Please suggest some good placements for forums.

Thank you.

jetteroheller

8:24 am on Jul 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Forums tend to have very low CTRs

Try to compile from the forum a magazine filled with expert oppinions.

For example, a German forum about my car is filled wiht around 20.000 messages.

With some month work, it would be possible to create an expert site about my car with maybe 500 pages concentrated knowledge about all the technical problems with my car.

This concentrated knowledge would attract many new visitors by search engine and would shure have a much higher CTR.

frox

8:37 am on Jul 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Jetteroheller, your suggestion is gold.

Content recycling, when properly done, is a VERY good way to get wonderful sites.

And by content recycling I do NOT mean copied articles, scrapers etc. I mean manual, intelligent re-editing of existing contents that are outdated or badly organized (and therefore cheap).

My best-performing site is made re-using contents that are more than 30 years old :-)

Hemanth

5:39 am on Jul 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the comments gentle man. The content rewriting is a new idea for me. I'll try to do some for this.

pldaniels

7:09 am on Jul 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have to say, the content recycling is indeed a very good way of doing things.

Every time I put together another article made from recycled content that I've read/digested/rewritten (with my own slant) from forums. It pushes my income up another dollar or so every day. Doesn't take long for you to realise that do that enough times and you've got a good income!

netchicken1

7:52 am on Jul 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I agree with the above about content writing.

Also try to increase your visitors by doing some SEO.

I have:
1 changed my forum structure to better index in google,
2 links to forum articles on html pages that are relevent,
3 have site maps of the forumposts in xml and html, and
3 link the recent posts to the index.html to increase visitors and bots

All these serve to get my forum indexed better in google, and more visitors passing through. doesn't increase my click through but still gets me more bodies on the site to do more clicking.

Its worked for me, today i have been checking my stats from 2004 when Is tarted adsence to now, and seen that although the click through hasn't changed the amount of visitors has, increasing the income from abysmally pathetic, to just pathetic.

jetteroheller

10:33 am on Jul 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have to say, the content recycling is indeed a very good way of doing things

I would call it more content mining

Mining means there is a lot ore, but only a few percent valuable metall.

Mining means to extract the valuable metall from the ore.

Same with a forum. It's like ore, and with some work, valuable content can be extracted.

Hemanth

1:02 pm on Jul 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm usin a moderate anount of SEO. So it's almost ok.

1 changed my forum structure to better index in google,

CAn you mak a little more clearer in this section.

Thank you.

frox

1:04 pm on Jul 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I like the word "recycling" because in my case it used to be good contents, but it has become old and un-usable.

You work on it, you take the good part, throw away the old part, and you have "recycled" contents!

netchicken1

9:14 pm on Jul 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hemanth, I can't do a mod rewrite on the URLS, which would be the best thing to do by taking
[mysite.com...] and turning it into
mysite.com/I love chocolate
for example, it just doesn't work with multiple pages for me.

But by watching google and seeing how it indexed my forum pages, I have moved the header and top lines of the pages around to better reflect the content of those pages.

The first thing the bot encounters on the top line of the page is auto generated the title of the entry with the forum title "I love chocolate / Food addictions"

I also stripped out all the features of the board and moved them to below the text content of the page, so near the top is the title and the text. below the post are the admin features and other factors.

It works, now my posts are indexed in google with the right terms.

It used to look something like this in google...

mysiteHome » Today's Posts. Last post on 10-7-2006 at 05:12 PM by membername · Go to last post Folder Video of automatic Glock 17 pistol in Latest Military Tech ...

and that was a good one, earlier versions and standard board versions were worse

now in Google they look something like

World events & politics ¦ Save the whales - collect the whole set ...Save the whales - collect the whole set - before the japanese eat them ¦ sitemap · Home » World events & politics » Save the whales - collect the whole set ...

indexing higher and better in google than before, with more relevent text in the google link as well.

I would love to have some text from the post there, but as long as the thread titles are well written it works OK.