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How's WebSearch Performing for You?

         

alika

6:11 pm on Jun 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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As correctly opined in this forum early on, Adsense will far outperform Websearch. And it is lagging miles and miles behind Adsense for us. In fact, the average daily income for Websearch is only 0.5% of our average daily Adsense earnings.

We're not too much disappointed as: (a) we always viewed Websearch as an add-on, not an equal of Adsense in terms of revenue generation; and (b) this is a chance for us to monetize our internal search which we did not do before. But of course, it will be so much better if it grows from 0.5% to at least 10% of Adsense revenues :o)

How is Websearch performing on your site?

loanuniverse

6:13 pm on Jun 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Not enough activity to tell, but one thing is clear some EPC are lower. I mean lower than what I thought was the lowest you could get in Adsense.

icedowl

7:05 pm on Jun 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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People are using Websearch many times more than they ever used my previous site search (Atomz). They're also clicking at a good rate. I wish AdSense would get such a CTR on my site pages.

dvduval

8:17 pm on Jun 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm getting more than I expected. I'm not making as much as I am on adsense (even on the same site with qpproximately equal weight), but I'll take the money. I'm still looking forward to seeing some examples of sites that have a good return. Maybe Google will create a page about successful Adsearch as they did for Adsense.

europeforvisitors

8:29 pm on Jun 24, 2004 (gmt 0)



Results have been terrible so far--partly because EPC is a lot lower than for content ads, but mostly because very few of my visitors use search. My search income is running less than 1% of earnings from content ads.

CTR has been spectacular, but percentage points don't put money in the bank. :-)

Retalin

8:33 pm on Jun 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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1 word: terrible

asinah

12:26 am on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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For us it is acceptable. We increased revenues on some days this week to around 8% but average revenue is 4.5%.

EPC went up over the past 3 days but I did some changes on the sites.

alexandra

3:42 am on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I put websearch script in my site search results page only,the CTR is very high,but the EPC is very low, less than 0.5% of adsense EPC.

I wish I can put websearch in most of my pages, that may increase the impression, and the click maybe,but since it can not open a new window, it will bring most of my traffic away,so I have to wait and see if it is worthy to be put in most of my pages.

lorenzinho2

4:13 am on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Terrible - we tried it for a week and our CTR was great and total revenue a joke. Because of its restrictive TOS, we ended up pulling it yesterday.

jim_w

4:25 am on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well we won't be charged any fees for it. 4 days and 15 impressions with 0 clicks.

I guess they are finding what they want and don't need to search?

FromRocky

4:28 am on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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WebSearch Earnings ~ 2% AdSense Earnings

Hope to increase to 10%.

cobaltlady

2:02 pm on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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4.29% of total earnings for last 7 days.

gethan

2:34 pm on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Today I have a websearch 100% CTR! - 1 impression 1 click and earnt 2c ;)

So I'm going to give that 2c here:

Of course websearch is going to give you lower revenue, and I expect 1% of your earnings to be a fairly standard figure. But ROI? It took 30mins to add google search to my site - 30mins to increace revenue by 1% - I'll take that everytime. If only I could think of 100 ways to add 1% revenue in 30mins - a very lucrative 50hrs.

saoi_jp

3:26 pm on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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In WebSearch, what does "Supplemental Result" mean? Generally there's a URL, and a link for "similar pages" but on some results, between the two are the words Supplemental Result.

Never_again

3:41 pm on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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So far WebSearch results have been terrible. Only a fraction of one percent of our total earnings and the average EPC is 79% lower and AdSense EPC.

I don't think it will last on our site. The value proposition just doesn't seem to be there for us.

richmondsteve

3:46 pm on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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gethan wrote:
If only I could think of 100 ways to add 1% revenue in 30mins - a very lucrative 50hrs.

Heck yeah. Incidentally, I'm not using WebSearch right now for a few different reasons. But if I implemented it, I wouldn't expect AdSense clicks to dwarf WebSearch clicks. On an impression basis internal searches usually make up a small percentage of a site's total impressions. For information sites like mine, users doing internal searches are looking for information on my sites, not products or services. And for a number of reasons I'd expect web searches through my sites to happen less often than internal searches.

Everyone should ask themselves how many pages they look at on the web over the course of a week compared to the # of internal and full web searches they do through search boxes on those sites.

bnhall

5:39 pm on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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For the last 7 days, WebSearch revenue has been 0.185% (ie less than 1%) of AdSense revenue. However, my topics tend to have high Adsense EPC and I tend to see CTR between 10-30%. Doesn't seem like this maps to WebSearch, though.

Then again....visitors to my site tend not to search that much :-)

IanCP

2:28 am on Jun 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've had Google Search on my site for quite a long time now, several years I think. I just never previously knew how many folks used it. Now I do.

With only a few days of AdSense stats available I must say I'm quite pleased and doubt I'll see a charge back.

While it is only a fraction of daily AdSense, it is significant and very worthwhile.

Again, well done Google.

anallawalla

5:38 am on Jun 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My numbers are not statistically significant but I'll be removing it.

Glen_Murphy

6:33 am on Jun 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think Google with have to do something about the revenue percentage. The search box has proven very popular by our users, but the revenue return is minimal.

That said, the clickthrough performance is sensational - for me around 10%. However, each click is worth between 1 and 5 cents which only adds up to small change per day.

blaze

7:22 am on Jun 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Wouldn't it be better for customers to leave our websites via AdSense versus WebSearch?

If you look at the exit points of a website, I personally would rather customers leaving via AdSense clicks (much higher EPC) than WebSearch (much lower EPC).

ownerrim

9:30 am on Jun 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Blaze, I thought the same thing and was concerned that websearch might decrease my adsense clicks. If you think about it, this could be looked at as a way for google to retain more click money by cutting the publisher's percentage down to nearly nothing. if you click an ad on regular google search, google gets the click$, if you click an ad on a content site, google splits it with the publisher. if you click an ad on a content site through a websearch box, google pays peanuts compared to what they paid for a regular adsense click. It's definitely a way for them to get the same level of exposure that they would have gotten from adsense but paying out a pittance by comparison. Slick. And kinda greedy.

europeforvisitors

3:53 pm on Jun 26, 2004 (gmt 0)



Wouldn't it be better for customers to leave our websites via AdSense versus WebSearch?

Hypothetically, maybe--but only if the content page has AdSense ads that provide exactly what users are looking for. That may happen on an e-commerce site's catalog page for "Widgetco WDC-1 digital camera," but it's less likely to occur on information sites (for which the AdSense program was designed, and which tend to be more willing to provide users with external links and search options).

In practice, users who don't find what they want on a site are likely to head for Google (possibly via the back button) and search again. AdSense Web search offers a way for publishers to generate income from "exit searches" that would have occurred anyway.

loanuniverse

7:27 pm on Jun 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think that by having websearch as an additional source of revenue, you also get the benefit of people that change their frame of mind from what your site is about to something completely unrelated.

Of course, you get paid for adsense ads once the visitor clicks on it, but you get paid from websearch once the visitor clicks on an ad in the result pages {two things have to happen instead of one}.