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Tricks to target ads

New page cannot seem to find any targeted ads........

         

ChrisKud5

1:49 am on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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On a new page (one page of a series of pages with the same topic and content, but different companies if that makes sense) I keep getting PSA's. At first it went from untargeted ads to PSA's, and now it is all PSA all the time.

Questionable content has been eliminated from my list of possible reasons. The page has nothing at all to do with anything questionable, no death, no weapons, no sexual content, nothing. Available ads for this topic is out of the question too, it is one of the most advertised topics on the internet, and all other pages get great targeted ads most of the time.

The page has many keywords repeated and used in not only the title but H1 and H2 text. Similar pages with similar content (but a little less of it beacuse the topic of other pages is smaller) have targeted ads 100% of the time i have checked.

My only possible conclusion would be that the text is not consistant enough for google to serve ads on. I do not really see why this would be the case as other pages have similar content and targeted ads, but i think mediabot is getting confused about the content and cannot make a decision..............bad mediabot BAD!

I am not in the business of stuffing keywords senselessly to get ads targeted or any other hokey tricks, but this page is already generating lots of traffic through links and is bound to attract more when it is picked up by search engines, and as we all know traffic is valueable.

If i were to remove most of the text from the page, what is the likleyhood that mediabot will re-look at the page sooner rather than later because it cannot target ads and might keep checking on page loads to see if anything has changed?

If it was a matter of minutes and not days I could slowly start adding text back to see where adsense gets crossed up and decides it cannot target. Anyone have a similar situation?

Anyone know the approximate protocol for pages where ads cannot be targeted and how often they are re-indexed? I have Live Stats installed on this particular site in question so it is not easy to see precise mediabot traffic. The site gets so much traffic it would take forever to sift through the logs to find actual mediabot hits to that exact page.

Jenstar

2:02 am on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Changing the ad unit size (ie. change a banner to a leaderboard) will prompt mediabot to re-visit the page.

Here are some other recent threads on this same issue:
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ChrisKud5

2:20 am on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I appreciate that JenStar I will screw with that a little and see what happens. Thank you.

Heeerree mediabot heeerreee mediabot comee here!

ChrisKud5

3:55 am on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I simply saved the the file with a slightly different name, updated links to the page, and targeted ads appear.

I guess the old file name / url was marked down as "PSA's only" so all i got was garbage. I knocked off one letter on the file name and now have full targeted ads in all 5 spots on the wide skyscraper.

Anyone else having a similar problem of one page showing PSA try a new filename...........

Need3lives

7:19 am on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Concur - have had this problem numerous times, and generally am forced to rename the page, or add it to a different directory. It works 9 times out of 10. If not, it is usually the result of a stop word.

Jon_King

6:45 pm on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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With the same page working under a different name (same content) I would have to think that it's an off-page factor driving the PSA's.

Over optimization for incoming link text is a possible answer.

AdSense displaying PSA's may actually come to this: If you are optimized enough to rank in a top spot for a competitive Google serp you will be over optimized for AdSense and receive PSA's.

paybacksa

6:26 am on Jun 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The new filename hack is useful.. not sure why but it is necessary sometimes.

I have only one page that I can't fix that way... the new page lasts a day or so and then suffers the same fate. I removed virtually all words from the page and still got PSAs, which taught me to rename the file. Must be a stop word or combination, but nothing I could find.

annej

5:32 am on Jun 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the new file name idea. I didn't have a page stuck in PSAs, instead it was stcuk with dating service ads and the page had absolutely nothing to do with anything remotely related to the ads. A combination of a few key word changes and a new file name did the job.

qualop

8:27 pm on Jun 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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what do you do when you have ads showing up (not PSAs), but they aren't targeted very well? they just aren't related to the page's conent? how are these ads even retrieved?

sometimes, the same set of ads shows up across multiples pages of one of my sites... they should differ, but they don't....

just trying to understand this...