ADSENSE ... figured the formula?

I really hope this is not right?

[cicru]

Hello fellow webamsters

I really hope this is not right.

So my normal income on adsense is about
$16 a day around 200 clicks with around 2000 / 4000 impressions

Now yesterday I bought one of this traffic packages ( a real one)

Impressions spiked to 11,000 and clicks to 159 income is $29 dollars .

Could some one explain the logic behind this?

c.

[Shak]

Now yesterday I bought one of this traffic packages ( a real one)

please explain?

Shak

[rubenski]

The logic is rather simple. Your new high-traffic site has a low clickthrough rate.

[Swash]

it would appear the traffic you bought is rubbish.

[Lipik]

You talk about 200 clicks, so 159 is in that range as clicks can vary from day to day.
If 159 clicks is not unusual for your site, then you could say you have a normal day and your extra impressions made zero clicks.
But to make a good report about this, better wait some days (at least one week).
Only strange fact : your EPC is higher?

[trillianjedi]

(a real one)

?

TJ

[cicru]

Let me add some more information, latley I am also seeing in my adsense logs one click and 0 income (I have some very poor performing sites but I still can see there individual stats, through channels, 80% click through rates)

So my point is that google, could be interpreting some clicks are fraudlent when the click through rate is verh high

[cicru]

"A real one"

There system looks like it is working, not just fradulent visits

[jomaxx]

The traffic you're probably buying is involuntary page impressions from popunders, blind redirects and spyware. This garbage traffic is of absolutely no value to advertisers and will (I hope) get you banned if it gets reported to Google.

[alika]

but I still can see there individual stats, through channels, 80% click through rates

whew ... 80% CTR, even for a channel. Did I read that right?

[dvduval]

Good point...when you "buy" traffic, it is often in the form of popup ads on other sites, and popups are against the TOS.

[ChrisKud5]

What? Who said you cannot be linked to by a popup ad? Where did you read this "fact"

Doesnt the TOS say Adsense cannot be placed on pop up pages?

[dvduval]

When you "buy" traffic, what is happening is YOUR SITE is being served as a POPUP. This is against the TOS. In additon, it is something you can control. Could this be a possible reason you were banned?

[jomaxx]

Actually cicru didn't say he was banned -- but I bet he's keeping a low profile.

Anyway it sounded like he was talking about buying bulk traffic rather than simply running some kind of ad campaign, in which case what effectively happens is that the site itself is loaded as a popunder. And that trick appears to be explicitly prohibited by the Program Policies.

[cicru]

Actually I was talking about this :

2,645 163 $23.70
2,431 123 $13.35
19,966 203 $36.17 <<<<<<<<<<<

The above figures do not make sense to me.

All figures modified slightly for obvious reasons.

[dvduval]

DO you have traffic logs? I assume you received a lot more traffic. I see the CTR is much less.
Were all of the hits to one page?
Or could it be that you had a surge in traffic to a PAGE that does not have a high CTR?
(keep in mind, even within a site, some pages have a higher CTR than others)

[2oddSox]

2,645 163 $23.70
2,431 123 $13.35
19,966 203 $36.17 <<<<<<<<<<<

Based on those figures I can't see the problem other than the spike in traffic which suggests it wasn't relevant traffic to your site. Otherwise, the dollars to clicks ratio seems fairly constant thru the 3 days.

[getadsensed]

the problem (i wudn't call it a problem though) is with your site's traffic and not your adsense program. There is nothing to explain what's happening in ur adsense program, but in your site traffic. Refer your logs and find out where this additional surge of traffic is coming from.

[Freedom]

Secret Rule #1 of AdSense: Nothing about your stats will ever make sense to you from one day to the next.

Secret Rule #2 of AdSense: Nothing lasts forever. EPC, CTR, nothing.

Secret Rule #3 of AdSense: (See Rule #1 and #2.)
Don't get used to anything. A high EPC field today is tomorrow's average EPC field.

Secret Rule #4 of AdSense: Be prepared for Google to take everything away from you.

Secret Rule #5 of AdSense: Have a backup plan. (See Rules 1-4)

Did I forget any?

[cicru]

Freedom, you are very right especially on ponit 4 and 5
but realistically what could ever replace adsense?

[dillonstars]

Did I forget any?

1st rule of Adsense is don't talk about AdSense...

sorry

[rytis]

Why would mysterious "traffic" produce adsense clicks. Clicks occur when real people come to your site themselves from links or from search engines, and see ads that interest them.

[steve40]

cicru
I am afraid it is no more than the traffic you bought is cr? , and that if you had been running an aff programme you would have seen similar results i.e. cr? traffic will increase your stats but do nothing for your earnings
context advertising works because the visitor wanted to know something about the information on your page
and adsense should provide visitors other options to research / buy etc. , If you had an aff prog selling pink widgets on a page about pink widgets or context adds on a page about pink widgets visitor may click and you earn
but if visitor is not interested in pink widgets and has been forced to the page he will leave ASAP
steve

[europeforvisitors]

Freedom:

It stands to reason that CTR, EPC, etc. would vary from day to day or month to month, because AdSense is an auction-based ad network where advertisers, ads, and bids are constantly in flux.

If you were a corporate "premium partner" with more than 20 million impressions per month, you might be able to negotiate a CPM deal with Google. You wouldn't necessarily earn more with CPM than with CPC, though--in fact, you might earn less by trading risk for predictability. (FWIW, I'd guess that CPM works best for large general-interest news/entertainment sites and portals whose ads don't convert very well. Special-interest sites in commercially valuable categories may do better with CPC and affiliate programs.)

[Fiver]

but realistically what could ever replace adsense?

work.

Every advertiser on your site, quite obviously, wants to sell things online. If you're particularly good at being a middle man for what they do, there's no reason they wouldn't work with you specifically.

Adsense is good for ease, speed, and a hands off autopilot style. Which is nice, undoubtedly, but it's the traffic that has the value, the advertisements just have to extract it well.