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No, I don't work for Google. But I have read the AdSense TOS. :-)
If only everyone did the world would be perfect...
And we'd see a lot fewer posts that read: "I clicked on some of my ads for testing purposes, and now I've been banned." :-)
europeforvisitors
are you working for google?
EFV is too polite to say it but... that's a silly, juvenile type of question. As was the original post.
It appears that the polite pointer towards the Adsense TOS was a waste of time, it's not that you don't know what the TOS are, it's that you are determined to break them anyway.
I would say that the people from these threads would disagree with you:
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(and that's only from the last 7 days)
I am for the black and white declarations (self-clicks are wrong, sharing your stats publically is against the TOS, intersting content is good) but too often people feel it is fine to post accusations about areas that are clearly "grey".
If you "know" when a webmaster has designed her site purely for adsense income you are either god, clairvoyant, or wrong. When it's time to burn people at the stake for how they appear to be, I'll be sure and give you a call to light the match.
The point is that knowing that others are seeing 1%, 0.25% or 20% is no more useful than asking what is the temperature in their town. It is useful only when you know that they are in exactly your niche and, therefore, the same ads are likely to be displayed.
The reason why the TOS is mentioned is because an identifiable person with an identifiable site could be poached by a rival to AdSense if they revealed their (high) stats. So, if you can identify such people in your niche and their sites, so can Google's rivals.
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Yes, some have a 100% CTR when their single visitor in a channel clicks. Along comes another and voila, it plummets to 50%. :( On the Adwords side, I have even seen 200% - two clicks for one visitor. :)
The point is that knowing that others are seeing 1%, 0.25% or 20% is no more useful than asking what is the temperature in their town. It is useful only when you know that they are in exactly your niche and, therefore, the same ads are likely to be displayed.
The reason why the TOS is mentioned is because an identifiable person with an identifiable site could be poached by a rival to AdSense if they revealed their (high) stats. So, if you can identify such people in your niche and their sites, so can Google's rivals.
The reason why the TOS is mentioned is because an identifiable person with an identifiable site could be poached by a rival to AdSense if they revealed their (high) stats
Any guesses you may make with regards the logic behind the TOS are irrelevant. When a publisher agrees to not disclose CTR he is under not just a moral obligation to not disclose it, but a contractual one as well.
If a third party - like you - is curious about CTR ...that does not provide justification for disclosing it. I remember no mention in the TOS that it is OK to disclose it if "foodconsumer" asks, or that it is OK to disclose it under the cloak of annonymity. You have asked members here to disclose CTR. Others have pointed out that it is against the Adsense TOS.
Get over it. It's more productive to work on improving your own earnings than it is to worry about other webmasters' CTR.