AdSense and indexing

[ZopeMaven]

I was wondering whether Google uses Adsense views or clicks in determining what pages to index, and how often.

Specifically, whether a page not otherwise directly linked to from offsite (and deeply buried in the site) will eventually get indexed because of AdSense views to that page, or not.

[Jenstar]

From the Google AdSense FAQ:

Participating in Google AdSense does not affect your site's rank in Google search results. Google AdSense will not affect the search results we deliver. Google believes strongly in freedom of expression and therefore offers broad access to content across the web. Our search results are unbiased by our relationships with paying advertisers and publishers. We will continue to show search results according to our PageRank technology.

Some do believe that AdSense may cause pages to get in the index faster, while others are certain they are completely separate.

If you are planning on using AdSense to get your sites indexed faster, you should probably switch to Plan B ;)

[bose]

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[HarryM]

I put up a couple of new pages with ads on them, and within 12 hours Mediapartners bot had crawled them.

What I am unsure of is, does Mediapartners maintain a seperate index and the pages still need to be crawled by Googlebot? Or does Mediapartner's crawl feed into the main Google databases? Can anyone enlighten me?

[valeyard]

Mediabot is a separate entity which appears to keep its own index. Adsense is *not* a backdoor into the main Google index. GoogleGuy confirmed this on another thread way back. My own experience fits this: I've had pages Mediabot crawled within minutes then waited weeks for Googlebot to come round and the pages appear in the SERPS.

However, on the specific point of a page not otherwise linked... Running Adsense will if nothing else tell Google that your page exists.

I would speculate - and it's just speculation - that this would mean your page *would* eventually make it into the main index. However with no incoming links it's not likely to do so very quickly or appear very high up the SERPs.

[ZopeMaven]

> If you are planning on using AdSense to get your sites indexed faster, you should probably switch to Plan B ;)

No, I was wondering if it would affect whether the pages got indexed at all.

Example: some particular page on my site is only accessible (via simple link-crawling) by going through several pages of search results (initially accessed via a link). Google *can* get to it this way, but I'm guessing probably won't ever crawl the site that deeply.

OTOH, a user who searches for something specific will get to the page very soon and view the page in question, causing an AdSense view. If the page has been viewed before, you'll even get AdSense Ads.

Google now potentially has a direct URL to the page in question. Will it ever get crawled and indexed in the main index absent other inbound links?

I've read the other responses in this thread, and was particularly interested in the GoogleGuy reference. Can anyone point toward the specific post he made on this subject?

[ZopeMaven]

> However with no incoming links it's not likely to do so very quickly or appear very high up the SERPs.

I am not at all concerened about PR for the pages in question, as in many cases the page will be one of very few results (for one search, I am already the top result, despite a PR of 0). As long as the pages get into the main index (without my having to submit them separately), I'll be happy.

[jimbeetle]

Not sure if this is the same one referred to. It's from a year ago:

[webmasterworld.com...] (msg 4)

The adsense bots and Googlebot have never met, and don't exchange information, so they're completely independent.

[ZopeMaven]

Thanks for the pointer jimbeetle. I guess I'll have to build a bunch of gateway pages, and/or cross link internally a bit more to make sure the site is a bit more friendly to shallow crawls.