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How can I get reinstated on Adsense?

My account was terminted because of seach engine bots

         

irbis

5:21 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My adsense account was recently terminated. I did absolutely nothing wrong. My website was visited by search engines robots that probably inflated Adsense clicks.

When I was exchanging emails with Google about my account termination, they asked me if there was any unusial activity on 4 specific days. I made a little page for them where I saved the log files for these 4 days, and outlined the IP addresses of the search engine robots that were at my site during those days.

Google never even looked at the page that I created for them.

I just got an email saying that they "reviewed the additional information I provided, but they can not reinstate me".

Does anyone know what I should do next? I just tried calling them, but they only seem to take sales inquiries.

I want them to at least look at the page I created for them.

Thank you for your help.

--Jon

chiyo

5:26 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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surely if robots can cause clicks on adsense then 99% of adsense publishers would have the same problem? anything unusual about the robots? Were they from "rare" search engines?

korkus2000

5:28 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Adsense is created with javascript and I doubt a SE bot would read the js(all the ones I know of do not) and then click the link. Thats why they use javascript. I think you need to scrutinize your logs somemore. It is pretty likely that there is something else there.

irbis

5:39 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Maybe it was something other than search engine bots. I don't know for sure. I don't even know for sure if they were search engine bots, or something else. What I can see is that the same IP address clicked on every page I had (about 40 pages) within 30 seconds or so.

I guess what I am upset more than anything is that Google never even looked at the page I created for them after they asked me for additional information.

valortrade

5:43 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I just got an email saying that they "reviewed the additional information I provided, but they can not reinstate me".

Based on Google's reply, I assumed that Google did spend some time on what you provided, even they already studied the "suspicious IP".

Could you list it? Maybe other webmasters could help you get some clues on that "IP".

rcjordan

5:46 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It's little consolation, but those little "Dear John" notes are pretty much the standard in the industry. It's been my experience that about the only time a publisher gets a review is if he knows someone on the inside. I've even had merchants go to bat for me with other merchants. What's particularly galling is if they agree that they were in error, but tell you to sign up again because they don't want to go through the process of reinstating you (happened to me once -elsewhere, not adsense).

irbis

5:52 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Here are the IP addresses that went through every page:

81.73.114.106 - that is Italian search engine

220.73.165.81 - something called minibot(NaverRobot)

218.145.25.17 - another minibot(NaverRobot)

211.154.170.38 - something called "Zeus 2.6"

The IPs below did not go through every page, but they also look like they were indexing the site:

209.102.202.134 - "RedAlert.com"

198.139.121.242 - "BAIR Page Content"

cornwall

5:54 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Have a look at

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and

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jbgilbert

6:08 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Since there are probably many AdSense users in this forum, is there an expert out there that would like to tell all in plain english:

what "really" bad bots to keep off your site, and

the ways available to do so?

irbis

6:52 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Based on Rcjordan post, it looks like the only way to get my account reviewed is to find a contact at Google who'd be willing to spend a few minutes looking at my account. If anyone knows someone at Google I can contact, please either sticky mail it to me or email me to irbis1@yahoo.com.

Thank you very much.

novice

7:05 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Personally myself I would take the advice of korkus2000. From what I have been reading he is right and that spiders don't follow java script. Try looking for any other unusual activities.

loanuniverse

8:13 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think it would be impossible to determine wether or not a user has clicked on the ads just by looking at the logs.

While you might think it was the bots, it might have been a user from the same ip or range of ips doing it.

Also isn't there a way to make some browsers return fake information so instead of being recognized as a browser, your browser returns bot identifying information? {I am not a tech person at all, but I remember reading something like that}

I am not defending Google, I am just saying that these "Javascript reading bots" might not be the reason.

cornwall

8:14 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>> My website was visited by search engines robots that probably inflated Adsense clicks <<

I re-read this thread from the start

Have you considere that it may not be SE robots at all, after all Google did not say that, you made the assumption

Go back to square one. Is you CTR abnormally high. This could be the problem, and that is why Google panned you.

Has CTR jumped, is it very high. Examine CTR. If Google responded to you tat your additional info on bots did not make any differnce to your ban, then asssume that there is another reason for high CTR

loanuniverse

8:39 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Has CTR jumped, is it very high. Examine CTR. If Google responded to you tat your additional info on bots did not make any differnce to your ban, then asssume that there is another reason for high CTR

I would go even further since we are assuming and making educated guesses that the reviewer at Google did not even check that info you setup for them since they consider it very unlikely that the clicks came from SE Bots, or better yet: The evidence they have is not related to that, but their log shows the clicks came from browsers.

irbis

9:37 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for your replies. My adsense clicks were always around 7%, which is pretty high I guess. Sometimes they would jump to 10% for a short time. But my website is a specialty shopping site, so everyone on the site would already be interested in shopping in this category. Adsense ads were perfectly targeted to my pages. I am pretty sure that was the reason Adsense click-through rate was relatively high.

Do you think Adsense does not like pure shopping sites, and prefers information sites, etc?

Also, about 20% of my traffic was non-US traffic. Could that be another thing Adsense did not like?

But the bottom line is that Google did tell me that I had fraudelent clicks, then they asked me to look through the log files for 4 specific days and tell them if anything there looked suspicios. Then I put the information they requested for them, and they did not even look at it and just emaled me that they would not re-open my account.

shrirch

3:16 am on Aug 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Also, about 20% of my traffic was non-US traffic. Could that be another thing Adsense did not like?

About 90% of my traffic is based from Asia and I have no problems with Google as there are plenty of advertisers from around the world who seem to want to advertise on the themes of my sites.

cornwall

9:15 am on Aug 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>Also, about 20% of my traffic was non-US traffic. Could that be another thing Adsense did not like? <,

I am covering tourism world wide, and there is no shortage of targeted ads for most countries.

Fiji, Peru or Argentina are getting targeted ads as well as USA or UK

PolishGuy

12:13 pm on Aug 1, 2003 (gmt 0)



About 90% of my traffic is based from Asia

me too! some of my most valuable readers are from Asia! google apparently has no problems with it.