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Not sure if anyone here saw the issue the cropped up between Candy.com and Adsense.
Some language there on the site was stated by Google to be in violation of the TOS for Adsense. The text would encourage website visitors to click on the ads...
Apparently Google asked Mr. Schwartz to change it and he did so immediately and emailed them to that affect.
He basically got a bot reply.
He replied again, and again received another email that appeared to not have been read by someone who knew what was up.
Next thing you know...his account is shut down for all his domains!
Now this guy doesn't have chumpy domains. He just sold Men.com for over 1 Million bucks!
I contacted Google this morning since I know a few peeps over there, and we scheduled Mr. Schwartz to be live on our webcast tonight!
We also invited Google...and was told that getting it approved quickly may be an issue(my friend was out on vacation).
So we're waiting patiently to see what Google is going to do for my friend Mr. Schwartz. We'd luv to be able to announce a resolution to this matter by airtime tonite.
So, keep your fingers crossed as Rick has a lot of premium domains that got hit hard by this.
Peace!
Have you seen anyone else, get nailed with no response...and for being compliant?
He was even asking them if there were looking at his site...via a cache! No reply.
That would be the day, when their caching turns around and BITES THEM...in the butt!
This could be a nice PR thing for them, if they get on the ball and get proactive about this!
This guy is no moron by any stretch of the means...but he's also just lost one of his major sources to monetize that traffic.
What would you have him do now?
Have you seen anyone else, get nailed with no response...and for being compliant?
Yep - they did it to me.
Sent me an e-mail asking me to modify one of my css sites where the adsense slid under the content at 640x480. I fixed it immediately, and notifed them. I got a stock reply saying 'thanks for reacting to our request'
Got my entire network pulled a couple of days later for non-compliance. When I protested they reinstated without any explanation and without reimbursing any money for the lost revenue. I lost about 36 hours revenue.
Its not good.
While they are at it, Google should also close down AdSense on their own parked domains.
[edited by: freeflight2 at 8:56 pm (utc) on Feb. 12, 2004]
For what its worth...its an interesting ride to watch!
However, ever been on a ride at a theme park...and ya just wish it would STOP! hehehehe
another thread about ads on parked domains
[webmasterworld.com...]
I wouldn't mind owning it ;) - but still, from an outsiders point of view, I am glad Google pulled the plug.
W.
I then did a random check of half a dozen domains on the list, which didn't have any content as far as I could see (unless you consider third-party search feeds or parked-domain pages to be "content").
I don't think Google has anything to apologize for.
Mr, Schwartz was so far away from the line, that it actually looked like a DOT to him.
he got banged, fair and square!
Who is the KING & who is the GURU?
no idea, but I know who The Daddy is, and also The Guvnor!
Shak
He should apply for domainpark and have his account reinstated in minutes. Where the money goes ...
what's wrong with that?
Jenstar, there is nothing more to my story - just incompetence on their part. They asked me make a minor mod, I made it, they thanked me for making it, then some time later banned me for not making the change which they had just thanked me for making. When I protested they reinstated me with a template e-mail response. I took 36 hours to come back, I lost the revenue. I detailed the story to them, pointing out their error.
No Apology, No Explanation.
Why do so many of you find it so difficult to accept the Google make mistakes? This constant sucking up by some senior members here is becoming quite nauseating.
EVERYONE makes mistakes, what matters is how they respond, and at times Google are falling below their previous high standards.
I have an e-mail audit trail that backs up the story.
I am more than happy to carry on displaying adsense ads - its a great program, but we need to be able to discuss their mistakes as well.
The forum is called 'Google Adsense', not "Google Adsense Groupies'.
I fully agree Google makes mistakes, I have seen it myself. But I have also seen plenty of people complaining they have been suspended "for no reason" when it turns out there were perfectly valid reasons for the suspension.
Sure Google give GREAT service to you if you are big Adwords spender as well as an Adsense client. You get invited to all their parties, presents at Christmas etc. Its the folk that qualify for this cosy little relationship that seem to jumping to Google's defense on a regular basis.
If you are not a big spender, you often get an impersonal repsonse and no apology when they are wrong.
Yes, I know thats how business works, but some WebmasterWorld members are starting to sound more and more like Google sales reps.
WebmasterWorld never used to be like this.
>WebmasterWorld members are starting to sound more
>and more like Google sales reps.
Lets see:
- we don't allow folks to slap around adsense tos lines.
- we openly talk about all the click bots and all the click fraud going on.
- we talk about all the people getting booted (like this thread).
- we talk about competitors often (sonar)
- I personally tell people here to click on their own ads once-a-day to see where the ad goes and to see if it is working.
- we tell people to take ownership of their own site and be responsible for the external content people are putting on it.
same as we always have - looking out for site owners.
Not sure what forum you have been reading 4Eyes, but welcome to WebmasterWorld non-the-less.
I shouldn't be surprised that in the same thread - we get accussed of being both anti-google for leaving it, and pro-google for leaving it. sheeze.
come back from the fringe...
I personally tell people here to click on their own ads once-a-day to see where the ad goes and to see if it is working.
Google please get rid of all domains like candy.com that offer little or no content.
To clarify:
when I said 'WebmasterWorld never used to be like this', I should have said 'WebmasterWorld members never used to be like this'.
Your objectivity was never in question, but your defense actually illustrates the problem rather well. Bet you get a raft of sticky mails after that one.
It is not your impartiality that I am questioning, rather that of a large bunch of members who seem to behave like they work for Google.
I am sure you know what I mean here, you are no doubt on the receiving end of it yourself.
When anyone posts anything that is critical of Adsense there is a 'group' who pounce with posts that at times, come close to an accusation that the poster is either lying, or a cheat. Its 'whitehat' gone mad.
Let me make this clear - I love Adsense, it makes me money, its a great program. It also has faults, some of them serious.
Sure, every poster has some kind of agenda, and some may be economical with the truth. My agenda is objectivity, (although I may use a little rhetoric to make my point).
...if I WAS on the fringe its because I stood my ground and everyone else moved;)
So whats your view on domainpark then?
They do.
Many here are receiving thousands of dollars a month in income from Google. For all practicle purposes - that's an employee in my book.
Folks, I can say this confidently. The engines are NOT in our corner. They never have been.
They are in it for themselves...they've only gotten better at their guise.
Do I fault them for this...hell no.
I fault us.
The more aggressive we've gotten, the more the engines have begun to use that ole 'addage: "keep your friends close...and your enemies closer!"
I believe the engines don't owe us a thing...
I also believe the engines have HAD to get better about dealing with us as we've only gotten smarter.
They have had to spend time and money developing programs that work for them/us and allows a more dangerous relationship...its puts them in bed with the offenders (spammers) instead of on the outside looking in as the engines always THOUGHT they wanted.
I use both myself.
Did my phone ring immediately after last nites broadcast was done? Was it Google? It sure was.
Were they trying to do the right thing? Yes.
From their last email to me and I quote:
REMOVED BY SEGuru for the Hall Monitors (some of you must run around with these TOS's tatooed inside your foreheads!)The GIST IS THAT THEY ADMITTED THAT THEY ARE GROWING AND THIS IS INDICATIVE OF THOSE TYPES OF PAINS.
A lesson to be learned here...is not to jump to conclusions. Not about the engines, not about this place that Brett and so many people have worked hard to build, and each other!
That's why places like this have managed to help complete strangers individually...millionaires together!
I can see your point 4eyes...I tend to stand a bit more even-keeled until I KNOW I'm being handed my butt!
Hope this makes sense.
[edited by: SEGuru2 at 2:52 pm (utc) on Feb. 13, 2004]
