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Adsense has changed my life

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CaryissoVery

12:33 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It is the nature of a forum such as this that most people come here to solve problems. I just thought I would post how AdSense has changed my life in a positive way for people trying to decide if the program is right for them.

Four months after learning what <br> meant, my life has totally changed. I have practically tossed aside my roof contracting company that has been my focus for fifteen years now. With a little reading, a little guidance from my father, and 80+ hours a week working on my website, the income I generate from AdSense can now meet the bills without me having to lift a shingle!

Even in this short time span there have been ups and downs. My income dropped 40% two weeks ago and is just beginning to recover. But even with the problems I've had getting relevant ads, yada yada, my life has changed to where I can use my brain to make a living. One giant THANKS to google (and I even have clean fingernails now!).

Any similar experiences? I'd love to hear them

wonderboy

1:57 am on Feb 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am hoping it will change my life =)

Lets just hope it doesn't go "poof" eh. ;)

Just inPrefs

3:10 pm on Feb 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone consider to click on his own AdSense from his web site (doing this by connecting through an anonymous proxy server)? Could possibly Google fight against such a mall practice made through an anonymous proxy?

adfree

3:14 pm on Feb 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just inPrefs - eventually they will figure out ways and means to stop and prevent this type violation to their TOS.

My advice: play it safe, play it fair. In the end we all win.

Jens

transactiongeek

3:14 pm on Feb 10, 2004 (gmt 0)



If your CTR rate is above the norm, you're going to lose your AdSense account.

But rather than expending all this effort on trying to game adsense, why don't you use the brain power for good and not evil?

Come up with a product / service / informational website? There are tons of things to be done out there.

If you're smart enough to game a bunch of PHDs at Google, I am sure you are smart enough to develop something people want to pay honest money for.

richmondsteve

4:18 pm on Feb 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just inPrefs, for your sake and mine and for the sake of everyone who participates here [webmasterworld.com] and here [webmasterworld.com] please don't do that. Fraud will likely get you booted from the AdSense program. As a publisher, fraud hurts me b/c it causes advertisers to opt-out of AdSense advertising. As an advertiser it costs me because the lead I've paid for isn't going to convert to sale.

europeforvisitors

6:10 pm on Feb 10, 2004 (gmt 0)



JustInPrefs, it's foolish to "game" Google, and for a very good reason:

AdSense is a network that can earn money for you week after week, month after month, and maybe (if the network is successful) year after year. If you try something sneaky and get caught, you'll just be throwing away the opportunity to "make money while you sleep."

Instead of stealing from Google and its advertisers, you'd be better off shoplifting at a local store, where you might get caught but the sentence would be a lot shorter. :-)

JohnKelly

6:18 pm on Feb 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I can only hope the question posed was for hypothetical discussion only. AdSense is a heretofore unprecedented opportunity for small web site publishers to make some money. Why spoil it?

Publishers can have gain exposure for their business in thousand on tens of thousands of different niche sites, which would be impossible anywhere else. Fraudulent clicks will ruin the opportunity for them as well.

How about this? We as publishers display ads, don't attempt to cheat the system, and Google pays us a fair value in a timely manner. We'll call it The Right Thing To Do(tm).

freeflight2

7:13 pm on Feb 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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if you really think about it, it should be pretty easy for google to determine if there are fraudulent clicks or not - a 'clickbot', even an extremely sophisticated one with 10000nds of IPs simply clicks 'differently' than humans - since you don't know the click pattern / % each adword usually attracts a clickbot can't immitate clicks which are similar to the 'real ones'.
Google does not even have to compare IPs or cookies etc. (they are too easy to fake anyways) it simply has to compare a site's click pattern for sets of adwords with other adsense sites or it's own search engine... since some adwords get clicked 10 or even a 100 times more often than others there should be enough data to work with (and again: only google has this kind of data, which is good)
In addition google probably takes other data in consideration, e.g. a certain % of the IPs clicking on ads should also use the google toolbar or google.com/yahoo.com/aol.com - google simply is already or is becoming 'the internet' and it's view on the activity on the internet is getting bigger and bigger from day to day.
=> since you don't have the data don't even try thinking about messing with Mr. G.

CaryissoVery

11:40 pm on Feb 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just inPrefs,

Just wanted to say thanks for bringing such a positive spin to a topic where we were discussing the wonderful things AdSense has done for us.

Keep up the great work, champ!

Tomseys

4:05 am on Feb 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I love adsense. I'm pissed about the recent algo change with google, but if I never earn another dime from adsense or never get another hit fom google, I'm grateful for what I did get. Thanks google for a great program.

Just inPrefs

7:54 am on Feb 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks guys for your invaluable advices. My post was for an informative purpose. Something like "what if...". I learned a lot from this thread, enough to not even think to cheat. Thanks again.

ds98127

1:28 pm on Feb 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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hi,
The proof of the pudding is in the eating... just try it out.
Sometimes i get a 0% CTR and just today it has gone upto 16% and i am already nervous and then this idea.

Realistically speaking , when google ushered in adsense would they not have foreseen bots and anonymizers and all their avatars.

To give yu an idea of the kind of people working there.
So many of us play soccer ... do yu know how many hexagons and pentagons are in there (ratio) ..would yu be able to visualize a 3d space with steradian angles and come out with a ratio....those guys can.
It is not about Phd's ..phd is just an ornamental qualification on a general basis...you have no idea what you are dealing with. No idea. Stick to their terms. Adsense is here for life.
My 2 cents...(this strange ctr scares me...0 to 16% whoa..)
Let us respect honesty and integrity. These things will give yu a bad karma as we say :-)
cheers
Niko

Macro

2:08 pm on Feb 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If your CTR rate is above the norm, you're going to lose your AdSense account.

0-16% whoa

There is no such thing as an average CTR for a collection of different, unrelated sites so you can't go above an non-existent "norm" if it well, doesn't exist.

Should you be talking about CTR norm for a specific site then yes, it will raise some flags. There is no guarantee that you will lose your account. I've seen sites rise and fall sharply on CTR wihtout Adsense being affected - but it's usually after some heavy publicity on a news site. Google knows where the extra traffic is coming from and figures this could be the cause of a higher percentage of clickthroughs.

freeflights is absolutely correct. They know too much for you to even dream of cheating in any big/regular fashion. And if you aren't cheating then don't panic about a sharp rise in CTR.

Just inPrefs

8:17 am on Feb 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Ok, what was that? Some kind of intimidation? Why are some of you guys so much scared?

adfree

8:52 am on Feb 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>Why are some of you guys so much scared?

Because this is the first time in Internet history where low key, honest and hard working, no-cheat mom and pop folks see some return of their value proposition and their added value to the web community.

There are folks around here who were bleeding and sweating and lost a lot or didn't ever get a chance. All of a sudden life is good and persistence pays, efficiency and honesty carry fruits, it's like a nice illusion come true to them.

And to be taken this (for some the only) opportunity away by some wacko who will spoil lunch by toppling the table (so nobody gets fed in the end) is what creates scare, hate, mistrust - pretty much everything opposite to this opportunity.

That's why!

PS: Collective stupidity in greed easily leads to something like Germany with the € introduction: everyone cheated anybody, now everyone is complaining against anybody but nobody prevented the collective cheating. End of the story: all lost 20% income (due to the much higher prices now), taxes and overhead rose, mood declined, the whole thing is a self created mud hole. In the end all lost. Cuz we German's are morons!

onfire

10:18 am on Feb 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Adfree, nicely put.....

Because this is the first time in Internet history where low key, honest and hard working, no-cheat mom and pop folks see some return of their value proposition and their added value to the web community.


Exactly when some of these people are now suddenly earning hundreds, even thousands of $ and have not had to do much more to get this extra income, expect add some code to their web sites, I am a bit nervous every time i see an email from Google ahahha

To go off topic slightly to a comment you made about Germans being morons,

Cuz we German's are morons!

Being English but living in Germany, i know exactly why the UK do not and should touch the whole EURO thing at all, especially with some of the recent EU decisions regarding the small airports and cheap airfares that has brought a many sleepy airport/town back to life and created thousands of jobs, but the EURO bureaucrat’s seem to have a problem with that, in fact they have a problem with anything that benefits the people and unless the idea has come from them, then its not the correct way bla bla bla

The Germans are not Morons, they just got sucked into something whithout being consulted, or even asked if they wanted it, they were just told its coming and whooopeee its going to change your life, (they got that part right, just they forgot to say it would degrade your quality of life and things would not longer be good value for your money) and if the Germans were able to vote on the € now it would be gone tomorrow.

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