Tribal Fusion's AdWords banner as Adsense's alternate ads?

[irock]

As some of us know, Tribal Fusion also serves AdWords banners in various dimensions. I was wondering if AdSense TOS prohibits us from serving TB's own AdWords banners as our alternate ads option.

This applies to FastClick as this network serves Google as well, I think.

I haven't found an answer to this. So I thought this would be a good topic.

Thanks!

[europeforvisitors]

I should think it would be all right if you weren't serving AdSense ads and Tribal Fusion AdWords banners at the same time.

However, if Google can't supply targeted AdSense ads for a page, is there any reason to believe that it can supply targeted AdWords banners from Tribal Fusion or another ad network?

[Jenstar]

From the policies:

By specifying an image or ad server of your choice, you can make sure that your advertising space is always being used effectively, either by targeted AdSense ads, or by your own choice of content. However, you may not specify Google ads as your alternate ads.

I believe Tribal Fusion's AdSense would fall under this.

[irock]

Oh okay... thanks for ponting out that one, Jenstar.

[yobo]

Isn't Tribal Fusion a banner serving network? I would be curious to know how they can circulate Google Adsense banners on other member's websites and split revenue since this is essentially reselling the Google payout and passing a percentage of the revenue onto its publishers.

I operate a banner exchange AD network and was told I could not include the 468x60 Adsense ADs in circulation. How is this different than Tribal Fusion.

Does Google make exceptions for some AD networks?

Jenstar, I saw your post and clip it from the TOS, but I am still fuzzy on this.

Also doesn't Tribal Fusion require you place their code on your website to display and serve the ADs? If so this would be in violation of the TOS since you are using additional code to serve up the ADs.

Very curious...

[Jenstar]

You cannot run Tribal Fusion with AdSense (or run any of the other banner ad networks with AdSense) on the same pages as your own AdSense. But most ad networks do have an option to turn off AdSense so you do not double serve.

I am certain that these ad networks run AdSense with a special arrangement by AdSense. I believe they are all running through the premium program as well.

[Kinitz]

- if Google can't find targeted Ads for AdSense
so it will not find them for TribalFusion too -
so it makes no sense to use TribalFusion as alternate

- anyway TribalFusion is a middleman
and with lower payout than AdSense and
worse customer service - it' only a question
of time when TribalFusion will go bankrupt,
what I wish it sincerely....