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Ad localisation for a travel site

         

John_Caius

11:30 pm on Jan 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Ok, so my site is about a major hexagonal European country and the front page has easily localisable text all over it. Why am I suddenly now getting Connecticut, Singapore and Michoacan (where?) ads where I used to get appropriate ones? Surely they haven't run out of relevant hexagonal ads that they could be showing instead? It can't be that difficult...

Anyone else sending their visitors on inadvertent world tours?

loanuniverse

11:53 pm on Jan 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If it makes you feel any better and we are talking about the site on your profile:

12 pages visited (including 6 regionals) = 11 targeted ads

visited the one page with no targeted ads and it showed targeted ads the second time around.

fasteddie uk2001

12:20 am on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I just checked your front page and got one for conneticut, one general and 2 french, mmm

PatrickDeese

12:31 am on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Could it have something to do with geolocated bids?

I have a non-US IP and all the ads were correctly targeted (though they were obviously British English creatives - "car hire" and "centre", etc).

loanuniverse

12:34 am on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Are you based in the same country that is featured in your site?

Not much sense advertising to people who are already there :)

austtr

3:51 am on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I operate a sizeable destination guide and I see the same thing. I continue to get ads relating to countries very far removed from the one the page is actually about.

Not all the time, and not on every page... but enough to be of concern. Probably about 20-30% of pages are off-topic at any given time and a bad page today may be good page tomorrow. Very frustrating... and damn near impossible to pinpoint the correct action to be taken.

It seems as if "activity" words generate the ads without an association to the "country". Words like "hiking" and "bushwalking" and "white water rafting" seem to be triggering adventure tour ads for Canada, Sth America, Malaysia, Peru... yet the page content has absolutely no connection with those places in any way shape or form.

europeforvisitors

4:07 am on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)



Words like "hiking" and "bushwalking" and "white water rafting" seem to be triggering adventure tour ads for Canada, Sth America, Malaysia, Peru

I've seen that happen, too. Somebody here once speculated that Google may be displaying the highest-bid ads in grey-area cases--for example, a page on "biking in Elbonia" might get ads for "biking in Peru" instead of, say, "Elbonia tours" if "biking in Peru" has higher bids. I'm a little skeptical, though, because some of the ads that get displayed don't strike me as being for keywords that would attract higher bids.

John_Caius

12:58 pm on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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In answer to above questions:

Yes, it's the site in my profile.
No, we're run from and hosted in the UK.

Having seen that new Adsense ad video in the recent thread, their experience of "providing really tightly targeted ads" doesn't seem to fit with this experience. It certainly varies - some cities I cover give ads for hotels in those cities, but other pages seem to miss the mark by a few thousand miles. One of the ideas behind providing Adsense on this site was to avoid labour-intensive commercial content on the site itself if we could provide similar options through Adsense links - so hotels in the city are bang on target.

Orson

1:17 pm on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm based in Japan, and having looked at the site, I'd say that the ads showing here are very well targeted indeed - lots are specific to the region of that hexagonal land. However, the front page isn't: there are only one or two ads displayed, and they are for the wrong country...

John_Caius

1:45 pm on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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How does the experience of other Adsensers (Adsensations?) in the travel sector compare?

Alternative Future

1:59 pm on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Travel site regional to a part of UK
Site hosted - USA
Targeted ads 95%, this remains throughout the site. The other 5% shows ads from other parts of the UK, mainly joined to region (not giving too much away :)

-gs

europeforvisitors

2:11 pm on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)



>>How does the experience of other Adsensers (Adsensations?) in the travel sector compare?<<

Pretty good, on the whole. I see occasional bits of goofiness, such as ads for St. Martin Hotels on a page about Germany that mentions Martin Luther. But such glaring mistakes are more of an annoyance than a major problem.

I do very well with AdSense. It's a great source of revenue for editorially diverse sites like mine, where a lot of pages would fall through the revenue cracks if I relied only on affiliate sales.

John_Caius

2:19 pm on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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EfV - my experience is similar to yours - Adsense is usually highly targeted, very few PSAs etc., it's only recently that I've started to see the odd screwed up localisation on the front page in particular.

iano99

11:05 pm on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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John

Your property page is also having an identity crisis. Adsense appears to have the right country but wrong industry - this is similar to the problems I'm having on my travel site.

danny

11:21 pm on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm in Australia, with a web site hosted in the US, and I have travel pages about New Zealand, Iceland, France, etc. as well as Australia.

Some pages have page-specific ads - Paris hotels, for example - some have user-locale-specific ads - Blue Mountains (near Sydney) tourist attractions - some have generic travel ads - Travel Expo, cheap flights, etc. - and some are clearly mistargeted - Costa Rica ads on an Iceland page (presumably "volcanoes" miscueing). And often there's a mix of these four.

I think advertiser foibles are probably responsible for most of the variation: whether they use geo-location or not, how targeted their keywords are, etc.

CaryissoVery

12:11 am on Jan 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I emailed adsense about similar problems I am having with my site. They responded this morning saying that they are aware of the problem and are actively seeking a fix for it. The response was not one of there push a button type form letters. So hopefully we are close to the light at the end of the tunnel on this one.