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Adsense - traffic overload - Advice?

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montrealcoming

1:21 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hello guys this is my 1st post here after reading the forum for some time now.

I am coming from a European country – Greece and I’ve recently started studying adsense as an innovative way of getting some money to cover my hosting and that’s it. I don’t really have the energy at this point to study 3000 pdf’s and optimize heavily, while I judge at some point I will.

Now I started just 2 weeks ago with a site, where I write about a theme I know pretty well and that’s about gym training routines etc. I maintain a forum in the Greek language in the same theme and I have a crowd of about 2000 members.

Now I use the url of that site to my signature and since I am the chief moderator and I have about 3800 posts over the past two years that link comes up fairly often when someone browse the threads in my forum.

Since I have just submitted my site to Google and yahoo and I haven’t use any fast SEO tricks/link exchange etc, I judge that whatever traffic I get is from my forums members that enjoy reading some of my stuff in that site. Thing is that while I was aiming for maybe $20 bucks a month I now get around $10 a day! Don’t get me wrong I wont throw extra income on the street for nothing and I am welcoming it, however when I checked my logs for the website and got a feeling on my visitors, I saw a lot of visitors for an un-indexed website around 600 a day that were unique different IP’s and numerous hosts they were all but maybe 4 of Greek origin. Meaning that their ISP’s were Greek their IP’s were Greek.

Now in my mind I know that the reason I get only Greek visitors is because my forum is in the Greek language and deals with Greek people, and that the ad clicking is due to the fact that they see things that we don’t have in Greece, such as certain herbal supplemental and training equipment. And since I have NOT asked implied directed anyone to click on the ads, I am sure they just see stuff they haven’t see in Greece and go to have a look and probably convert.

Now my question is this: Should I be worried that Google may not like the fact the 98% of the clicks on my site is Greek and ban me? I don’t get like 3000 clicks from the same IP maybe an average 2 per IP but should I take steps to prevent that? I don’t want to get banned for nothing. Will it be safer to just research some of those products and turn into affiliate marketing? Someone advised me to put an “enter” page so people won’t jump into the content, do you think that it will help any?

Thanks for your time,

MP

marcel

1:54 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If you're worried about it, send the AdSense team an email with your questions.

As long as you are not clicking yourself, or asking others to click for you, there should not be a problem.

gregbo

8:22 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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As far as I can tell, you're having some success based on hard work and playing by the rules.

montrealcoming

8:36 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Indeed it's hard work & a bit of luck, but I am worried Google wont see it like that because my users are primarily from one country.

Would it be safer if I try to separate the traffic between websites? Say I make website for herbal supplements one for gym equipment etc instead of sending all my content under one domain? Will it make a difference for Google?

pldaniels

11:57 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think you've definately got a case where you've "fallen in the butter" (done well ;)). I'd suggest sending an email off to Adsense and informing them of your concerns, however if there's no illegal clicking or fraud going on then you have nothing to really be worried about. Proactively sending an email to Adsense will at least also give you some safety margin.

Keep your WWW logs, that's going to be very important if Google does decide to not like your success.

In summary, well done - many people struggle to attain the level of success that you have on their first Adsense attempts.

Paul.

Hamburger

3:52 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi MP,

I run a German website and most of the clicks are from Germany, merely some from Austria and Switzerland.

My guess is that more than 90% of my clicks are generated by German visitors.

I've put Adsense on the site more than 2 yeas ago and never a had problem with google, even though I once suffered a click-attack and a massive increase in clicks after the tsunami ('cause my site is travel-related).

As far as my experience is concerned, you should have no problems at all.

Enjoy being the lucky one!
Jan

gregbo

5:39 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Would it be safer if I try to separate the traffic between websites? Say I make website for herbal supplements one for gym equipment etc instead of sending all my content under one domain? Will it make a difference for Google?

Since you wouldn't be changing the language, etc. of the new sites, your country origin of traffic isn't likely to change. I don't think that it would make a difference to G either way.

As others have said, if you're concerned, contact G. If you suspect click fraud, be prepared to remove the ads. (While this is no guarantee, I have not heard that Greece is a major source of click fraud.)

montrealcoming

5:54 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Here is what I wrote Google and what they wrote me back.

Hello I run an article site that's mostly about gym equipment and routines. I maintain a web forum in Greek language and I put my site's link on my signature. I get alot of traffic into my article site that's by 94% people from Greece, some click other's dont and thats normal. But I am wondering as the traffic increases will there be a problem if the click through ratio increases along?

Is there a problem if people checking the ads on my site are from my country? Reading my stats the users are from unique IP's and I get about 600 unique visitors a date with an average 20% ctr, is that a problem and should I take measures to change that?

Thank you.

----GOOGLE'S ANSWER----

Thank you for your concern regarding users clicking ads from Greek IP address.

We understand that you may wish to receive specific information regarding invalid clicks. However, we are unable to disclose such information. We can tell you that to protect your interests as well as those of our advertisers, Google monitors clicks and impressions on Google ads to prevent any abuse of the AdSense program. Google's proprietary technology analyzes all ad clicks and impressions for any activity intended to artificially drive up an advertiser's costs or a publisher's earnings.

A good way to prevent invalid clicks is by reviewing and remaining in compliance with our Terms and Conditions and program policies:

[google.com...]
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In addition, you can review your site's traffic logs for suspicious activity and notify us with any findings. For more information, please refer to the following Google search terms:

Webmaster resources
Website tracking and logging
Site traffic analysis

We look forward to your continued participation in Google AdSense. Please rest assured that your account is being properly credited for all valid clicks and impressions.

For additional questions, we suggest you visit our AdSense Help Center at [google.com...] . If you're unable to find an answer to your question on our site, please feel free to reply to this email.

Sincerely,

Suzie
The Google AdSense Team

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So basically they didnt tell me anything LOL. Spray and pray thing you may get banned you may not :S, in the meanwhile I added 3 categories more and insert images in the ads and I make $40 a day :¦ .