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Google Adsense Customer Service

Thoughts about Google's email Customer Service

         

byrhtnoth

2:07 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've been bouncing emails back and forth between myself and Google, trying to understand in any specifics why my account was disabled.

(in short, they've disabled my account because of "Invalid Clicks", but won't tell me what those clicks stemmed from at all. They also claim to have sent me an email in November, though I never did receive it...)

Now, I'm just trying to get to talk to an actual person regarding my AdSense account to understand why they disabled my account, but they won't go beyond "Invalid Clicks" in explaining it. Essentially, they're blowing off my complaint that I never received a previous email, and won't give me any additional info so I can figure out what the "Invalid Clicks" were--and if i'm not told where the "Invalid Clicks" stemmed from, how am I to combat this problem?

Ultimately, their email customer service leaves much to be desired. They are brash, brief, and unhelpful. At this point I don't expect to get my account reinstated... but as their communication with me has been unprofessional, I'm philosophically more intent on reaching a real person there now so I get the treatment I as a "paying" customer of adsense deserves.

Has anyone else had problems with their customer service?

FYI, my emails to them have been courteous, explanatory, and professional. I've made no accusations, no brazen remarks, or borderline assumptions. I've stuck to the facts. I would think my site is large enough for them to take note of (200,000 daily page views)--but I have no idea what flagged it as a violater.

Visi

2:16 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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We have found adsense support over the 5+ months in dealing with them, actually very helpful, the responses initially are a bit bland? however on second followup found them specific and helpful. This includes promotion of a problem for a more technical response. I find that normally issues are resolved within 3-7 days, and within 4 emails back and forth. Just our experiance.

Jenstar

2:24 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have always had excellent experience with their email support, and I have heard plenty of praise about their helpfulness and promptness of their replies.

The only times I have heard anything negative is when some publisher's emails from Google are automatically filtered by their ISPs (so Google sends the email, but the publisher's email blocks the receipt of it), or when a form letter is sent as a reply, which neccessitates a followup email by the publisher.

The other times have all been by suspended publishers who complain about the lack of reasons given on what the fraudulent clicks were.

AdSenseAdvisor already responded to why they do not give any further information on invalid clicks here:
[webmasterworld.com...] msg # 19 Other ad networks do the same thing. As ASA said: "Unfortunately, this is a necessity - we can't make this sort of information available without helping some people to develop ways to try and fool our systems."

If you have sent them any further information (ie. stats for the period in question or possibilities of why it seems these clicks were fraudulent) then I would suggest moving on to another ad network.

Blue_Fin

2:30 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Has anyone else noticed how many people have commented that Google told them they were sent an email in November and the person didn't get it?

This is really disturbing because if any of us have an infraction that would normally result in a warning if it was the first infraction, but upon the second infraction we were terminated because we didn't respond to the "November email" that we never received, there could be a lot of publishers skating on thin ice with no knowledge of that.

Very troubling...

div01

3:07 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Along with sending an email they should flag it within your Adsense account/control panel.

Blue_Fin

3:12 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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That is a great idea, div01. When they have a message that requires a response, they should force you to read it through your account before being able to access any other area of your account, just like they do when they require you to agree to TOS changes. Then they have electronic proof that you saw it so you can't claim you didn't.

KenB

3:25 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Given the high risk of a warning email getting picked off by a spam filter somewhere along the way. Having important messages from Google flagged in our control panel is a VERY GOOD idea. Maybe AdSenseAdvisor will see your suggestion and pass it along.

jomaxx

4:14 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Blue_Fin, I did read one other thread where someone mentioned not receiving an email warning in November. I looked back and it was this same poster (byrhtnoth).

In any case, I agree that some kind of backup warning would be a good idea. I delete dozens of spam emails a day unread, and I have nightmares about killing an important message by mistake.

byrhtnoth

4:22 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't necessarily doubt that Google's letter to me was caught by a spamfilter (my mail server uses SpamAssasin, and I use Mozilla Thunderbird's junk tools as well). It's just that they won't lend my complaint any credence (that I never saw it).

Having the warning post to your control panel is a great idea! I'll go ahead and email that to them :).

I have gone on to another ad network now (AdSonar beta program), but I am continuing my complaint on a principle level.

Jenstar

4:25 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I had made this suggestion in the past, and perhaps it will be included with a new control panel update.

A few people have made mention that they can't receive emails from Google, but these are usually in response to not receiving their initial email when applying for AdSense. Perhaps Google is assuming if a publisher receives an initial email, they should receive all subsequent ones. And this again is something that could be abused by fraudulent publishers to receive second chances by claiming they have not received the first warning email - I am not saying this is what byrhtnoth has done, but I am sure it has been done.

Blue_Fin

4:31 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Here's one from back in September. I remembered ThatAdamGuy posting it so I searched for his post.

[webmasterworld.com...]

div01

4:51 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Google does flag stuff in Adwords...eg, under-performing keywords, etc so it shouldn't be that hard to implement within the Adsense control panel.

But what would they do while waiting for your acknowledgement? Show PSAs?

KenB

5:20 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Showing PSAs or alternative banners would be a good stop gap measure.

Blue_Fin

5:22 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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But what would they do while waiting for your acknowledgement? Show PSAs?

No, you just wouldn't be able to access any other area in your account. If you don't respond to their request after a certain length of time, depending on the nature of the issue, then your account would be subject to termination as it is now.

Providing this in the control panel wouldn't change how they enforce their rules. It would just insure that the publisher received their communication.

Blue_Fin

5:23 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Showing PSAs or alternative banners would be a good stop gap measure.

Much too harsh. Give the publisher a reasonable amount of time to respond.

KenB

5:45 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Give the publisher a reasonable amount of time to respond.

Agreed, but after that timeframe, switching to PSAs would get the attention of publishers who don't log in frequently.

byrhtnoth

5:49 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Heck, I'm fine if Google just stopped providing ads to my site until I acknowledge receipt of the Violation Email. Google needs to protect their advertisers, and I understand that.

Perhaps once they get a little competition they'll stop acting so draconian.

Marcus Aurelius

1:30 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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NEVER EVER use a spam filter on a business account, that's just plain crazy. Setup a unique email account you don't use anywhere else for adsense and other critical business and then just never filter it.

Blue_Fin

1:45 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Setup a unique email account you don't use anywhere else for adsense and other critical business and then just never filter it.

Unfortunately, it's a bit late for that since Google will not allow you to change the email address on your AdSense account.

KenB

3:19 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I own my own domain and my web hosting provider gives me unlimited virtual email address. So what I typically do is give out a unique email address to any forum like this or vendor like AdSense. This allows me to easily exclude addresses from my filters and monitor who shares what with whom. If one of these addresses goes bad, I simply kill the address and start bouncing messages to it.

BTW the address I gave to ComputerWorld is one that is going bad. I never did get a free magazine subscription from them, but they sure saw fit to stick me on all kinds of subscription newsletters. I've unsubscribed several times, but the messages just keep coming. I'll start bouncing the email address I gave them next time I log in to my web hosting control panel.

byrhtnoth

9:12 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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NEVER EVER use a spam filter on a business account, that's just plain crazy. Setup a unique email account you don't use anywhere else for adsense and other critical business and then just never filter it.

And it's just plain crazy for Google to send only one letter of violation without requiring any sort of verification of receipt. I already have a few other email addresses I'm required to check for my business--adding one more isn't exactly something I'd want to do.