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Dumping the 200 filtered ads to see what happens!

24 hour test. only... Because I cant afford to lose money.

         

Nitrous

2:31 pm on Mar 14, 2006 (gmt 0)



Right my earnings are always very steady. I have 15 sites on different topics.

I have been adding MFAs and other rubbish to the filter for over a year. It always increased my income. Everything that did not DIRECTLY sell a product or service went in.

Its been full for months and I cannot filter any more.

Today earlier I removed them all.
Now lets see what happens. David_UK tried this in another thread. iI expect to get similar results.

My income this month is lower than average after a really good Dec, Jan, Feb. Those months were 125 average daily, varying by a maximum of 21 dollars up/down including weekends. More usually they were within 5 dollars... This is normal for my site - very constant average income for over two years in fact.

This month is lower at an average of 110 daily with a bad start early in the month of 90 ish. Its been steadily improving back to the usual 120+

Now I suspect that todays earnings will be low. Very low. Because in a few hours all thise spammy MFA sites will be back! How long does this take?

Lets see! Will post later on to let you know what the figure is before I go to the pub! Normally it has always been between 75 and 95 (by 9.30) here in the UK. Any guesses?

Nitrous

4:23 pm on Mar 15, 2006 (gmt 0)



Trust me, if they exist on advertising/aff links then they are your competition. Block everything that does not sell a product or service directly.

MonsterE

7:44 pm on Mar 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Ive dumped about the same amount of junk spam/free giveaways earlier this week, will post results later. This goes for over 200 developed sites.

Is there a way to block this annoying multiple domain free offer guys Adsense Client Code?

fearlessrick

9:34 pm on Mar 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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OK, I just had to post this. My eCPM and earnings leapt to extremely high levels after I dumped about 30 spammy advertisers. I never thought it had much of an impact, but after about 5 hours, I am convinced. Many thanks, Nitrous!

Added: I encourage everyone to keep a close eye on who is advertising on your site. I know I will from now on.

As usual, I believe Google should be taking a more active role in policing this, but after the fiasco last night when they invited me to participate in the Google payments Beta, I am not impressed with the brain power at the 'Plex.

sven1977

9:47 pm on Mar 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I did the same thing, filtered some 30 or so crappy advertisers. It's still too early to tell (the ads still appear on my site; guess it takes a few hours). My earnings are way down lately due to super low CPC. Smells like MFA Ads, possibly triggering smart-pricing (just speculation).
I will post my results here tomorrow night after one can be more sure that these results are really due to the filtering.

Great post, thanks. Made me aware of how much crap is out there advertising on my pages.

MonsterE

11:17 pm on Mar 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Noticed Top Earning Site earning LOWEST TODAY after filterning all that spam etc, #*$!

sven1977

1:08 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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MonsterE. Maybe you represent a rare case in which spam ads are actually paying not soo bad.

Weird though. I hope for me it's the other way around. Would like to have some control over my earning-drops by filtering out the crap.
But we'll see.

MonsterE

2:59 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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well I rather have lower earnings than have my visiotrs remember my site as a spam supporter. Oh well lets see if this filter thing picks up soon.

Web_speed

3:00 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)



Wondering if there is any connection between disabling "Advertise on this site" and the sudden appearance of loads of spam ads shortly after.

It would be great to compare notes.

"Advertise on this site" is disabled in my case. Since I disabled this option (shortly after it was introduced, about 3-4 months ago) i am noticing a slow but gradual decline on all fronts...EPC, Quality of ad targeting and advertisers.

Those who are experiencing growth in the number of spam ads and reduction in income, is "Advertise on this site" enabled or disabled in your case?

Your comments are appreciated.

MonsterE

4:09 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>Advertise on this site</a></td></tr></table>
enabled on mine

hunderdown

4:23 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)



Wondering if there is any connection between disabling "Advertise on this site" and the sudden appearance of loads of spam ads shortly after.

Don't know why the two would be connected. I disabled that a couple of months ago, and it hasn't had any noticeable effect--I disabled it because some people had theorized that having it there makes it more obvious that the ads are ads, reducing CTR.

Disabling didn't affect CTR or cause spam ads to flock to my site.

Nitrous

1:50 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)



After restoring my ban list yesterday was a record day for this month.

Now I am going to delete the old ban list and spend all day creating a fresh one. Because many of the old list no longer exist, or no longer advertise.

I have one site that ONLY displayed MFAs! once the banned list was removed.

For what its worth that site gets little traffic and earns bugger all anyway but should you be interested it was a real business site that was built for a customer. Free. If I was allowed to add some ads! Its about weddings and limos. Spam city or what!

Radejr

3:51 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I actually did this test for myself. I unblocked about 100 sites, but I also made a few changes to my ads and is seeing a 4x earning increase I dunno how much of it attributes to unblocking some ads.

Nitrous

4:34 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)



Well sensibly you should do one change at once!

Nitrous

8:50 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)



Today I blocked 200 NEW ones, after deleting the old list. All of these are up and running right now. Today is a mixed bag of results because I have been adding new mfa sites (plus any other scam/aff and fake search engine/scraper sites. In fact everything I found that was in canadian, uk, us zones with the preview tool. So most of the day displayed 30 percent garbage ads, and some are still there because it takes HOURS to take effect!

But so far its a slow day!

ronburk

9:40 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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this result is artificially "good"

Here's an equally unsubstantiated contradictory claim:

your results are artificially "bad" because you didn't give Google enough time to figure out which of the "rubbish" ads would make you the most money on which pages in what position.

Nitrous

9:53 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)



I agree that I didnt give it much time. But in the past I have given it up to a week.

The pattern, and the results were the same so far.

The difference is that after a week it looked even worse!

And even if having loads of these scummy sites actually helped income, I would ban them anyway!

I dont see why I would want to share the advertisers buget with a freeloader. It puts my own visitors off, they think that this garbage is a link I put up!
And in the end it will stop everyone wanting to click those links. Already lots of people have learned to avoid them "because they just go to pages of links" (my own gf.

Sorry but I dont think google learns by historical data anyway. It just uses its algo to match whatever current ads it has as best it can. It cannot see the difference between a real ad, and a freeloading garbage site.

danimal

9:53 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)



google never stops serving up new mfa's, the frequency just gets changed by how much epc you are getting... mfa's don't want to pay real $$$ for their ads.

so google has plenty of data to work with when it comes to serving up mfa's in advantageous positions on your pages.

flashgordon

10:28 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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does anyone know if you can wild card in the block list? for example, to block all UK sites, could you add *.co.uk?

Zygoot

2:51 pm on Mar 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This experiment turned out quite bad. I added about 66 advertisers to my ban list and yesterday's income was the lowest of the month. Especially the EPC was down.

This morning I removed all these advertisers (except eBay) from my list and now it's recovering again.

Maybe I should have given it a few more days but since I added these advertisers to my block list two days ago my income only went down.

danimal

5:06 pm on Mar 17, 2006 (gmt 0)



zygoot, it sounds like your standards for what constitutes an acceptable advertiser could be part of the problem... for instance, why restore all the mfa'ers, but leave ebay in the filter?

before you put an advertiser in the filter, go out to their website and see what they are really about.

pacman2

6:00 pm on Mar 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>> does anyone know if you can wild card in the block list?

definetely not, this would destroy lot of proper advertisers... some noob would then try effect of "*.*" too :)

mzanzig

6:40 pm on Mar 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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flash:

You should be able to block all .co.uk domains by entering just

co.uk

into the filter. It does not work with pure top level domains, though, so you can not enter

uk

into the filter. This will result in an error message.

I have considered blocking all .co.uk as well, but I see a lot of legitimate advertisers from the UK, so this would be not a wise move. However, if your site has clearly nothing or little to do with the UK, then just go ahead - saves you a lot of trouble. Just to give you one example, I have one very aggressive advertiser from the UK that uses SIXTEEN slots in my filter list. All sites are the same crap, just packaged into new layouts. Would be great to get rid of this advertiser in one go...

ftwb05

7:04 pm on Mar 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm new to competative ad filtering, so I've just added 30 mfa sites, so I too will report back with any findings over the next week.

david_uk

8:09 pm on Mar 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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IMHO blocking only works if you block specific, persistant MFA's that you have actually seen on your site. Blocking entire countries, or having a splatter-gun approach to doing this is bound to lose you money!

Nitrous

9:00 pm on Mar 17, 2006 (gmt 0)



Well I use the tool.
And block everything that doues not sell a product or service directly. In UK, US and Canada areas.

david_uk

10:48 pm on Mar 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The reason I don't use the tool is that I often see ads that have been banned for months in it, and very often it doesn't show ads I can physically see on the page! Therefore I don't have any trust that the ads it shows are worth filling up the list with.

Nitrous

12:12 am on Mar 18, 2006 (gmt 0)



But its the best tool (only tool!) we have to see the majority of stuff adsense will sisplay in uk, us, canada (rest dont amount to much) ...

I also block a few that appear on site but DONT appear in the "tool". If you refresh it a few times they all appear in the tool/page eventually!

Zygoot

5:14 pm on Mar 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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zygoot, it sounds like your standards for what constitutes an acceptable advertiser could be part of the problem... for instance, why restore all the mfa'ers, but leave ebay in the filter?

before you put an advertiser in the filter, go out to their website and see what they are really about.


All sites I blocked were either MFA, 'click here to get a free widget' sites, 'work at home and earn $5000 a month' sites, clickbank sites and a couple of shop comparison sites.

I left eBay in the filter because I already block them for more than a year - with good results. I keep blocking them because I know that these eBay affiliates don't pay a lot.

danimal

5:34 pm on Mar 18, 2006 (gmt 0)



i guess that i'll have to look at blocking ebay, shop dot com, etc.

the tool has not been accurate for me, no matter how many times it gets refreshed.

vanillaice

5:38 pm on Mar 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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All sites I blocked were either MFA, 'click here to get a free widget' sites, 'work at home and earn $5000 a month' sites, clickbank sites and a couple of shop comparison sites.

I see a few 'click here for free stuff', but it's usually related to my niche. Is it still junk regardless? I'm just now going through the process of going through my ads, and just blocked completely unrelated stuff.

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