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Automatic money machine

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Scruffy

10:00 am on Feb 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I did a search on Google today, using a 3 word phrase.
The 2nd item in the SERPS was a direct reflection of my search phrase, followed by a series of highly relevant phrases in the descriptor.

I clicked on it to take a look. - Its a page consisting entirely of Google and other ads all carefully blended in together, very professional but (IMHO) solidly against the Google TOS.

So intrigued, I looked at the URL more closely, It was a dotcom followed by /kw/my_search_phrase.

So I removed my_search_phrase and substituted another. Sure enough, another page of Ads, all targeted quite nicely to my new phrase.

I would love to hear opinion on this before I mention it to Google (It might be your site ;-)

digic

10:09 am on Feb 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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can you sticky me the url. for sure its not my site. coz my site only have one ads in the middle and one 5 links. just want to see! im curious.

I have seen other sites similar. It contains a copy of search results from google.

How do I found it. I searched for the incomings links for my site...and saw there, a google results on one of his page pointing to my site.

Scruffy

10:18 am on Feb 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Can I check this with the moderator first. Is it OK to sticky this or may I post the url?

Woz

10:21 am on Feb 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Definitely No URLs please.

The type of site you are describing is commonly called a Made For Adsense site, not offering any real content of its own, existing only as a medium to display advertisements. There are Tonnes of them on the net.

Onya
Woz

Scruffy

1:09 pm on Feb 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Never seen anything like this though.
What really puzzles me is how it got ranked so high in the SERPS.
I guess it must just be an obscure phrase I entered.

FrostyMug

4:35 pm on Feb 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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MFA site, they usually rank high and most have AdWords campaigns linked to them. in my searches, i land on these at least once an hour. I usually just click back and move along.

Matt Probert

5:59 pm on Feb 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've never had the misfortune to see one! Perhaps I don't surf enough :(

Matt

guru5571

8:32 pm on Feb 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Very common. Most of the regulars here have known about these for a while.

toldan

9:16 pm on Feb 27, 2006 (gmt 0)



So intrigued, I looked at the URL more closely, It was a dotcom followed by /kw/my_search_phrase.

I did a search on Google and I found many websites doing exactly the same thing you explained. Google Adsense is infested with cheaters and there is nothing anybody can do about it. It's sad, very sad.

Scruffy

2:21 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Well, we'll see.

I've sicked Google on 'em. Had a reply they are 'looking into it'

If anything happens, I'll update this thread.

anand84

3:13 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I dont know if we have to report this to Google just to show that we are good citizens.MFA sites are not illegal; just that they make use of the loopholes quite well. Personally, I would prefer to make a content-ful site rather than an MFA,not to show I am good citizen but because I feel they pay higher.

If such sites are not your cup of tea, like somebody said, move back and go ahead with your work. Why ruin that website owners life. After all, if he ever makes money, then it is because the site visitors thought his 'links' were useful enough.It is not for us to say if the visitors thought that the site was a bad idea.

Scruffy

3:41 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Why ruin that website owners life.

For the same reason I would ruin the life of any thief!

There is a big difference between an MFA site that conforms to the TOS and one that doesn't.

anand84

3:47 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A thief is one who clicks his own ads, not somebody who makes a site in a way that he thinks is most profitable. Is he costing the adwords advertiser unnecessary expenditure? I dont think so, because I feel a visitor who clicks on his ads are as much interested in the adsense ad as would be one who visited it on mine or your site.

trader

3:58 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just because he has an SEO way to rank high for the keywords and little content does NOT in any way mean the quality of the visitors the advertisers get from clicking on his ads are any less than your own website.

In fact, visitors could even be better quality overall since they were specifically looking to buy large blue widgets and found them on your large_blue_widgets.htm page instead of finding them on someone else's small-green-widgets website.

Dave_A

12:31 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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dollarshort

5:04 am on Mar 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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They have been around for some time choking up the internet with useless data, basically they buy millions of search terms and generate hundreds of thousands of html pages or generate them on the fly. Search Engines have difficulty telling if its garbage or real content, ranking them high at first, until they are manually blocked.

Scurramunga

5:13 am on Mar 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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MFA sites are not illegal; just that they make use of the loopholes quite well.

Many of the MFA's I am seeing without a doubt, violate the TOS.

martinibuster

5:14 am on Mar 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The topic of this thread is "I would love to hear opinion on this before I mention it to Google."

It's not a general thread about MFAs. There are several ongoing threads on that topic if you want to make general comments about MFAs.

The topic of this thread is comments on a specific circumstance, not general commentary about unrelated websites. Three or four duplicate ongoing anti-mfa threads is repetitive and redundant, so let's keep the discussion going where it belongs.

Thanks for understanding.