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As far as whether or not this is against their TOS, the only thing I can see that might be iffy is:
You agree not to disclose Google Confidential Information without Google's prior written consent. "Google Confidential Information" includes ... (b) click-through rates or other statistics relating to Site performance in the Program provided to You by Google;
I guess the amount of money you earn in a given month might fall under "statistics relating to Site performance".
Also, in response to this:
>we all know all that
If you knew all that, you would also knew that "money from Adsense" info is a waste.
I don't know that, because I believe no info is a waste. Heh, honestly though, the reason I ask is because if I were to become convinced that the active members of WebmasterWorld, who I consider to be some of the brightest webmasters around, can't make reasonable (choose your own definition of "reasonable") revenue from AdSense, then I wouldn't venture into it.
You might say, "Well, maybe YOU'LL be the one to do it right!" - but what I'm doing is researching whether or not it's worth bothering with, and getting this info from you, my peers, is one way that I do that. Is that so UNreasonable?
As far as actual numbers, I will not divulge that since it would be in violation of TOS. The above information should serve a a guide for you though.
Give google their due they have given us more of a chance to earn money from our sites than all of the other PPC engines put together.
Adsense is a few lines of javascript added to your web pages, if it stops working for your site or you want to remove it - dead simple, find and replace with nothing and all your site is clear of the google adsense code
Now if you had affiliate links you would have different links on your pages which will take you a lot longer to remove from your site
Just give it a try you have got nothing to loose
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I disagree with that analysis; IMO it's just part of a much-needed diversification of online business models.
In my case, my #1 site does very well with several affiliate programs, but gets poorly targeted and low-paying AdSense listings. OTOH, my #2 site gets a vastly higher effective CPM with AdSense, but has not been too successful with affiliate programs.
amazon is a quite widely criticised affiliate, sorry associate, program but they still have people making thousands a month. right now, one of the threads over at the amazon forum has someone posting a scan of a $5000 check. does that mean that amazon is a great paying program? No, it is one of the worst without a shadow of a doubt.
so people posting here figures of $4000, $11000 and so on will be useless to you. equally, if someone says they earn $27 a month, you may think, "oh, doesn't sound worth the effort" without knowing that the webmaster in question gets 40 visitors a day and his $27 return on that is wonderful.
people keep saying it is a waste of time posting figures for a reason. because it's true!
Added: statistically speaking, having any sort of poll, survey where people volunteer answers is worse than useless. Like a political opinion poll where you ask people to phone in with their allegiance. If you asked every webmaster on this board to give their figures and they had to be honest and they had to answer, you then would start to have a survey worth the time doing it.
You want to know how you will do? Look at what keywords in your industry are going for on AdWords and Overture. Look at your sites actual traffic. Double or triple the CTR you are getting on other programs.
Try it out on a few pages at first...you can stop it at anytime. There isn't a huge investment of time as you simply cut and paste the code...then you will have actual numbers.
I have gone from a hobby site with decent traffic and no revenue to having the resources to completely rebuild my site, move to a dedicated server, run a sizeable PPC campaign, pick up a SEO firm and QUIT MY DAY JOB. All in 6 months.
I feel like Google has given me the American Dream. Will it work for you? Odds are YES. But you won't know until you try it.
hence the reason why the vague statements like "you can do a good business compared to other programs" is actually 50 times more helpful
I agree.
But it seems that Filipe knows this and the only reason for the thread is because he's nosy and wants to know what other people are making. Apart from being rude he is encouraging other webmasters to break the TOS. Whether or not you are annonymous here if you agreed to the TOS you are honour bound to not disclose your earnings. Filipe, I don't buy your justification/interpretation that it is not against TOS to post earnings. I suggest you write to Google and see how they clarify that point.
I would recommend that nobody else posts their earnings here. Filipe can jolly well join Adsense and find out himself whether it's for him or not. We all did.
I have been using GA since August and been making better money with it than I did with any other advertising I have done in the last 5 years. Period.
Of course, it has been dipping down now this and last month, partly due (I think) to the ads looking old, but it is still making 10x what I have earned on Burst or Amazon.
The worst part about it to date is the darn stats. I need stats by domain to have ANY clue as to whether one of my five sites running it is doing 10% or 90% of the clicks/money. Until it comes, I have no way of knowing and can't really optimize anything.
Overall, I have been impressed... as I have actually deposited checks. :)
BZ