Website Making or Day Job.

[kiropyckoticks]

I live in a place where people who are employed in making web pages or doing programming can earn from $200 to $400 per month. As you can see, the figure is pretty low. If I am employed here at my country, and I earn $300 a month, that would be approximately, $10 per day.

I am very new to this Adsense/YPN/MSN thing and I wonder how possible it is for me to earn $10 per day. Well, if I earn $300 per day at adsense, then it is better than earning $300 working at office since I have to pay for transportation etc.

I have very good programming skills and I can create web pages. I can also write content and write some good Flash games.

I already have a website that receives around 40 to 60 unique visitors per day. I wonder how can these advertising schemes can help me. It is already 47 DAYS old.

In our country, $300 per month is a mainstream income for almost 70% of the population. So if I can earn this in the internet, and have the chance to earn more like $18,000 per month, then it would be better than being a full time employee.

I know you guys can advice me on this. Thanks. I will be graduating college and I will be looking for a job after a few months.

What are your suggestions for someone like me?

[Mistra]

Speaking from my short experience with Adsense, to make US$10 per day I need about 2000 unique visitors per day. My highest was US$20 a day with 4000 unique visitors. 60 visitors per day can only make a few cents on average.

FYI, I quit my job to do this full time and I am not there yet, not even at your target. At my place earning US$300 per month is not enough to survive. Factory workers can earn more.

If you have the capability to sustain yourself for a year, I suggest you do this full time before looking for a job. If Adsense is not working for you then probably when you get a job later you will still be earning a small side income from Adsense of about US$100 to US$200 per month.

[martinibuster]

It depends on the niche you are writing about, and the language of the site can make a difference, too.

Some niches can make over $20/day on under a hundred visitors. Some niches make substantially less. Your site sounds like it is off to a promising start. Keep it up.

Once you graduate you may want to get a day job and work on your own projects at night. Of course, if internships are available in your country, you may want to consider doing a few of those to not only obtain experience for better jobs during the day (education + jobs = better opportunity), but if it's in the field you want to write about or somehow related, then you can learn from it and expand your skills.

Think of it as a baby bird that stays in the nest until it's ready to fly. Once your night projects are able to sustain you, you will be in a position to consider going independent.

[percentages]

>I live in a place where people who are employed in making web pages or doing programming can earn from $200 to $400 per month.

I really don't understand that!

We all live in the same Global Internet Community. I happen to live in the USA, but I'm not an American.

Where I happen to live has no effect on what I make as an individual. I live here purely because I like the environment! Not, because it gives me an advantage to the market, in fact it is probably a dis-advantage!

I look at folks like Angelina Jolie that "reside" in Cambodia, and think that she is the smart one!

We all now live in a Global society, there is very little from stopping anyone from achieving!

[kiropyckoticks]

What I want to say is that if you earn $400 a month doing some webstuff then you can live already and support yourself (perhaps buy a house or a car). In USA, of course, you cannot depend on $300 a month. But in my place, it is already ENOUGH to support an individual. With the chance of earning more, do you think it is a better gamble than working 8-5 in an office + around 4 hours of travel time? I know that having a job is a sure thing to do in terms of income.

2 hours travel to job
8 hours job
1 hour lunch
2 hours travel to house
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It would take you 12 hours per day just to earn the $300 minus transportation cost. You will be lucky if $100 is left to your pocket at the end of the month.

What do you think will be the best way to do? I can support myself for the next 8 months (since I am still studying) and my parents are not asking me yet to work.

I already had my internship for 2 months and I am in the fourth year of my college now in a university.

[bts111]

Just keep building, writing and testing. You sound like you are on the right track. Good Luck!

[Sweet Cognac]

You would do better if you would write articles on what you are learning or studying in college, or about programming. Maybe even some step by step tutorials for Flash. People say "games" websites do not pay well.

Everything takes time, build now for the future.

[frox]

contents, contents, contents

and

traffic, traffic, traffic!

[Bluepixel]

I would ask your parents to support you for a few more months after college to create a website.
If it doesn't work, you can still go to work later on.

But making 300$ a month shouldn't be that difficult and you should succeed.

[TheDonster]

The problem with using your web site to sustain your income is that it can evaporate overnight if your site gets dropped in search results. Then you will probably have to go work for someone else anyway. If you can develop multiple sites on different topics, the chances are better you will eventually succeed from the combined revenue of all your sites. If you were to start work for a few years, your income would be guaranteed as long as you have your job. You can still develop your sites at the same time in your spare time. With 4 hours daily commute time, you can certainly get a lot of content written on a laptop. Think of it as your early retirement program.

[Paris]

Wow, a 4-hour roundtrip commute would certainly have me wondering about staying at home.

One thing that you should do, if you are confident in your website skills, is to look into the freelance sites like Scriptlance, eLance and others where you can pick up programming and design jobs to help supplement your income.

Right now it's easy for us all to say that making $300 a month is more than possible, but the reality is that the supply of websites appears to be growing faster than the supply of advertisers. These AdSense gravy days aren't something that one should count on forever so do this only if you accept that it may change on a dime one day.

You're in a good position, though. You may not realize it at the moment, but living in a place where $300 a month is more than enough to get by opens up many global opportunities for you thanks to the Internet. Freelance through the freelance sites. Make the relationships. Do build your own site between the paying jobs. In the end, the only barrier to how much you can earn is your skill, ingenuity and time. Just give it a shot and good luck!

[LifeinAsia]

We all now live in a Global society, there is very little from stopping anyone from achieving!

Although I tend to agree with that for the most part, there are limitations, as even a Global society has ghettos.

Not everyone has 24/7 access to high speed Internet for quick updates to sites, constant checking of AdSense income, or researching how to do things better. In fact, many areas of the world don't even have electricity 24/7.

I agree that a person who is truly motivated can somehow find ways to overcome all (or at least most of) the obstacles.

[morpheus83]

If you are good at programming then you should surely try Elance.com, Guru.com, Rentacoder.com etc. There are quiet a lot of high paying projects out there. Unlike a money making website which takes time you can start earning pretty quick from these sites.

[julinho]

If you live in smaller countries, you can do well in Adsense just by writing good information in English about your country.

There will always be people looking for information about specific countries; if you live there, you are in a privileged position to provide tips about transportation, legislation, culture, touristic places, etc.

Usually, the smaller the country, the smaller the competition. If you live in the country hinted by your profile, Dmoz happens to have only 73 travel sites listed; it should not be difficult to get listings there.
Also, ask for help (read: links) at the government sites (Embassies, consulates and sites promoting tourism are usually helpful).

Get a good ranking for the keywords [main cities in your country], and you should get easily more than $10 per day.

[gendude]

I'm with the others - I would use your already existing programming talents and take freelance/contract work, since you will make more money, and make it quicker. At least with that kind of work, when you are involved in a project, you are going to get paid - you are not worried about being dropped from search engines or the many variables that are involved with living off of website advertising.

That said, many people around here have tossed the $10 a day number as a kind of standard - that hitting $10 a day is one of the hardest things to do, but after that it gets easier and easier to go up to $20, $30, etc. (obviously you are going to be limited by your target audience at some point).

[webdreamer]

The $10 mark was a good one. Now I am working on the $100 mark (for 1 day).

With that being said, now that I have surpassed the $10 mark, and higher, I am sustaining a minimum of $27 a day.

Hopefully when I hit the $100 mark, I will be sustaining around $50 a day.

And on, and on, and on.

Until that time, I will keep my daytime job.
At least for now.

[desi_curry]

Hi kiropyckoticks,

I had similar thoughts when I was doing adsense. I was on the verge to leave my job as adsense was paying me quite good and there were lots of oppurtunities ahead to earn more.

But guess what, I got an email from google one bad morning that there were invalid clicks from my website and bang. So its not necessary that if you are 100% genuine you cant be bursted.

So think twice and always have plan B ready. As this can happen to any one.

But inspite of this you are young so you can gamble a bit for a better prospect.

My best wishes. :-).

[thaidomain]

If you live in a country where the average income is around 300 U.S. dollars or lower and this country is not too small, I suggest the following.
If you have good English skills, build a web directory manually of the websites in English related to your country. By manually, I mean, sit down every day and add a few tens of websites, with a proper description (as you see if) of the content (check out the descriptions, about files on the websites).
This will work if your country is not overly covered already by this kind of directories. If there is little published yet, it would also be easy to get listed in DMOZ and Yahoo directory.
At the same time start writing articles about the things you know about your country. And add them to the content of your website.
We did this actually before the advent of Adsense as a 'hobby' in a country (just guess which one) with a similar average monthly income.
After adding adsense, we easily are making a multiple of this average income.
But do not be fooled. It is actually a lot of work (and realize that there are quite a few on this webboard who actually loathe web directories). Do not copy content and even descriptions for the directory from other sources. We noticed quite a few copycats in our field. Some of them just copied our content and description, but somehow we have not discovered one that is doing well. We think there is a system by Google and possible other search engines to check on this, and give priority to the first content providers.
If there is a market for advertising in your country (the first big advertisers are usually hotels and property developers, are they doing good business at he moment?, is tourism developing?) you probably can surpass the 300 US mark once you go above 1000 visitors a day. To get that you should probably also have a least 50 full pages on your site.
Even if there are not that many website maybe listed about your country, it is probably in a transition period. With an average income of 300 U.S. there will certainly come a lot of sites online in the following few years, and you may be the one who is first and get them listed first.
And write what you know about. We usually write about culture, health matters and history. However, to give an example, just two weeks ago we visited a new shopping center in town, and decided, well let's take a few pictures and write our impression about it. Unexpectedly, this page is getting between 50-100 visitors a day know. Actually a lot of people could write such an article, but in reality not many are doing it.

[KeywordCountry]

Welcome to the forum. This forum will definately help you make $100 per day. But if you are thinking to leave your job, try your hands in Affiliate websites too.

[kiropyckoticks]

Thanks for the replies. I really need to improve traffic to my website. my website is a quiz website, for fun and educational. I would like to create reviewers for students taking college entrance exams here in my place. Additonal question... Am I targeting the wrong niche?

[gendude]

I think your niche is going to be very small and it's possible you won't have much advertising.

I would go with what thaidomain said - that sounds like a really good idea, because you would have a much wider audience.

Don't get me wrong, niches are normally very good, but if the niche is too small or the demographic is not one that is wanted by advertisers, you'll be doing good to break even on your time and expenses.

[kiropyckoticks]

I am now creating a directory for my place. I also added some job information since I know that many people look for jobs. I will be adding more pictures so that I will appear at the google image results.