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Tropical Island

1:58 pm on Dec 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have almost reached the limit of the 200 URLs allowed in my account.

I really feel that this is an integral part of the AdSense system.

Most of the URLs are MFAs and MFO/Ys however there are others that I blocked that are just sleazy PONZI scams or info harvesters.

Today I had to block a site in Danish that was all over my pages (that are not in Danish)).

If it is a system resource situation only add additional space to those that are above , say, 175.

If ASA reads this is there any way to have this limit raised?

sailorjwd

2:10 pm on Dec 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Aren't you killing your EPC by removing so many urls?

Have you tried using the ignore comment tags and increasing your keyword density to focus the pages more?

I used to regularly fill up the blocked urls list but eventually realized it was a losing battle and it was better to let smart pricing and Adsense improved targetting (with a little help from me) sort it all out.

Also found that less ads made for better ads.

Then again you probably know more than me :)

Tropical Island

2:52 pm on Dec 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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95% of the time the ads are relevant and I have an excellent CTR and EPC.

When I notice either of the above falling abnormally I immediately check the channels on my sites to see where the problem is.

As I check these low pages inevitable there are 2 or 3 MFAs.

As soon as these are blocked the numbers return to normal in a few hours. Remember these ads offer nothing to the visitor or my revenue. They are all paying minimum click rates and their elimination has no negative effect on the results - quite the contrary.

Until the next cycle!

This is why

This is why it's so important to have more room to block these garbage sites if AdSense won't do it for us.

My advice to any publisher is that when you see your numbers falling do not immediateley blame it on "Smart Pricing". Do some work with the preview tool and see what's actualy showing up in the UK or Canada, etc.

If it's MFA sites block them.

hunderdown

3:20 pm on Dec 1, 2005 (gmt 0)



TI, I've seen several suggestions that you can periodically empty your block list and not see the unwanted ads suddenly show up on your site again.

What's happening is that Google floats new ads out on the network constantly. The ones that perform stay. The one's that don't get dropped. And they also review ads--but only once they are live. So most of that cr*p drops off the network pretty quickly, and doesn't come back.

Try it and see--save a copy of the list, delete the whole list, and wait. You may need to put back a few but I'll bet you'll make a lot of room.

maxgoldie

3:39 pm on Dec 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I agree with TI completely. Lately there has been an explosion of garbage ponzi advertisers & MFAs.

Too bad that the URL filter wouldnt just automatically eliminate the ones that are not advertising anymore.

Tropical Island

4:15 pm on Dec 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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..just automatically eliminate the ones that are not advertising anymore

Now there's an idea!

I will try dropping a bunch of older ones however I'm not happy about it. AdSense is beginning to involve more time than I really have to give it.

The revenue is nice however it's only about 10% of our gross and, some days, takes 30% of the time.

Maybe I should just stop posting in here to catch up :-)

malachite

4:56 pm on Dec 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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And on the same subject, it'd be really great if we could block on a site-by-site basis too (having of course, pre-registered sites on which we display adsense). Hint, hint, Google :)

There are some ads which are totally unsuitable for one of my sites, but would be great for another.

incrediBILL

4:59 pm on Dec 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I only kill of the most annoying ads which still take 4 hours to get rid of so by the time they're gone my income has already taken a nasty hit for the day.

The most recent to tick me off was a new meta search engine that targetted my site, and then wal-mart - sheesh.

sailorjwd

5:07 pm on Dec 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I agree with Hunterdown and myself :)

I went through about 6 cycles of loading up the blocked list and emptying it.

It is like a dog chasing his tail.

As was said, the bad ads eventually go away until the next load of new ads/advertisers arrive.

You'd be much better off spending the time to expand your content or write some for me.

david_uk

7:36 pm on Dec 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'd like to see the facility of blocklist management. Specifically a table with information on if the URL is still being served ads by Google. If they aren't, then they could safely be removed from the blocklist. I guess a lot of sites in the list could be deleted in most cases, but going through it manually is a time consuming task.

maxgoldie

9:27 pm on Dec 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It is like a dog chasing his tail.

Or like a dog being chased off of a comfortable couch, the minute you turn your back, he is back on it again...

AdSense is beginning to involve more time than I really have to give it.

That is an important point. Pretty soon, I wouldn't doubt that Adsense might actually pay less than a bricks and mortar job, or at least not be worth it in terms of lost opportunity costs.

Tropical Island

1:02 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If anyone is interested I wrote AS support today to ask for more URL space over and above the 200.

I tried to delete some to put the more current ones in and the old ones showed back up.

200, for me, is not enough. This is so frustrating to have to police this garbage but I will not have my site visitors leaving to land on these junk pages.

I pointed out to support that a very small percentage of publishers probably takes the time to monitor the ads like I do and, if they won't do it, at least give me the space to do the job properly.

walrus

2:28 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I agree with Hunterdown and myself :)
I went through about 6 cycles of loading up the blocked list and emptying it.

Seven :)
Still blocking Ebays though.

AdSense is beginning to involve more time than I really have to give it.

I made it to the equivelent of full time work but got smart priced back to doing renovations.
Ironically one of the first jobs was removing asbestos from an attic exposing me to meso-whatever the heck it is.

[edited by: walrus at 2:39 am (utc) on Dec. 6, 2005]

Visit Thailand

2:32 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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As I mentioned in another thread I would love to see G allow us to use folders to categorise the 200 we are currently allowed.

I do not use anywhere near that amount but I would love to be able to create tabs within the filter for junk, bad ads, unsure etc so if we ever decide to go back and remove certain ads we can more easily remember which they are.

Woz

2:36 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Wildcards would also be useful.

Onya
Woz

icedowl

3:17 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Date added to the list would help me a lot.

kamikaze Optimizer

4:47 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi TI:

I feel for you. I had to remove AdSense in June from a very powerful forum I own because of this issue.

My problem could have been fixed if Google would allow keyword blocking, as all of the url's I was blocking were targeting the trademark name of my site.

I wrote to Google when I left them and a nice 5 figure a month income, but was replied to with a sorry letter.

I am only just now getting back into the game Chitika, because I can control the gadgets that appear on the site (I understand that this is not an option for you, as I recall that you are in travel).

Everyone has made some good suggestions in this thread. I would only add that Google should also make it easier to block ads, something like just right clicking on it and not the complicated adsense-tool-cut-login-paste..., That is all very time consuming.

mzanzig

9:42 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Also, it would be GREAT to block all adverts coming from one advertiser, i.e. if you have found one, just check a checkbox "block all ads from this advertiser".

I recently had to block a number of junk sites from one company in the UK running ads on my site. Unfortunately, they have registered dozens (if not hundreds) domains, making it very hard to stop the ads with one easy block.

Their landing pages are just stuffed with affiliate ads and Adsense, and the URL they mention as part of the ad always generates a 404. (Shouldn't Adwords people check that?)

BTW, blocking these domains have increased my EPC by roughly 10% while CTR seems a bit lower. But its all a bit too early to tell.

kamikaze Optimizer

10:23 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes, I agree, blocking whole adverts would be good also.

Funny thing is, I do thing Google is listening. With Chitika and YPN doing so well, I think G just might fix this for TI ASAP.

Tropical Island

11:51 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Received a canned e-mail from support this morning saying "no dice" or words to that effect.

The thing is my EPC for Dec. is 25% higher.
Every time I see a low EPC page I check it and, sure enough, there is the garbage.

While I guess the only way to deal with the problem is a wholesale delete and start over I don't want to jeprodize my current EPC and create all sorts of new work for myself.

I am now using the pick and replace method. Deleting some foreign language sites and adding the English garbage. It's not a long term solution.

Please AS if anyone down there is listening use some of the suggestions in this thread to help us out. Even better, police the system better from both the AW and AS ends.