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I was expecting this was a temporary thing and they would switch back to normal, paying ads, soon...
But it's been 3 days now of the charity ads... How long will it take?
Anything I should do?
Adsense hasn't released an official list of those keywords, but it includes things traditionally seen on news sites in regards to murder, or some adult keywords.
I recently updated the news page of the site notifying the readers of a death/funeral that happened related to my sites topic.
So, as long as the funeral word is in there, these charity ad's will remain?
What should I do.... I don't know many thesaurus words for funeral.
Very weird google ads wont display if you discuss a funeral by the way.
(By the way, probably not real important, but if you will, could you please change the topic to "Updated a page of the sit..." to "Updated a page of the site, " etc. please.) :) Made a spelling mistake.
edit/added:
Didn't mention the word "murder" in the updated page anywhere, ....just "dies" and "funeral". (The person didn't die from a murder, but from natural causes) And it wasn't in a derrogatory way... Just notifying the readers of a sad passing.
Maybe I should contact Google?
"dies", "died", "funeral" "sad passing" and "fatal stroke"
[edited by: Jenstar at 5:07 am (utc) on Nov. 17, 2003]
[edit reason] Sorry, TOS ;) [/edit]
Google was embarassed early on by showing completely unsuitable ads, and these instances were reported in the media.
There was an article in the NYTimes [webmasterworld.com] which commented on the fact that ads for luggage where shown on a page where it mentioned that a dismembered body was discovered in a suitcase. Another member here reported an ad for a CD Burner with the title Burn, Baby, Burn [webmasterworld.com] on a news story about a house fire where children died.
I can see why they have this kind of policy, and why they don't seem to make exceptions, at least at this time. It is hard for the mediabot to determine what context those keywords are used for, so when those trigger keywords are used, PSAs show in their place instead.
PFOnline, someone did use a thesaurus to creatively rewrite content to elminate trigger words with similar non-trigger words, and resulted in targeted ads instead of the PSAs that had been showing.
Or do you think I should maybe contact Google?
Have made the decision to not be political about it by contacting google, lol.... but to try to figure out how to remove the words that are triggering the charity ads, instead.
Hmmm... Anyone know a different word for funeral?
Or actually, maybe I just need to remove the words "dies" and "died" and it will fix it... Maybe "funeral" is OK and is not the word triggering it...
Will give it a shot... thanks! :)
But I couldn't find a thesaurus word for "funeral" and it's a word that really cannot be removed from the story, so I left it.
So hopefully "funeral" is not one of the words triggering it, cause theyre's really no way around it!
You gave me another, possible even easier solution/idea...
I think the font I use is one of the fonts that makes a "i" look like a "l" so its possible I can change it to "funeraI". Thanks. :)
Cheers.
PFOnline
Now, off to heavily edit one of my sites...
"So and so dies from fatal stroke"
Didn't mention the word "murder" in the updated page anywhere, ....just "dies" and "funeral". (The person didn't die from a murder, but from natural causes) And it wasn't in a derrogatory way... Just notifying the readers of a sad passing.
Although AdSense selects ads based on a page's keyword content, they don't try to determine the context that the keywords are used in.
If you use words like:
murder
death
kill
dead
funeral
dies
and many more...
The page will display PSAs every time, no exceptions (at least I haven't seen any).
Instead of dies, say passed on, or went to be with the Lord. I've seen that done very successfully. You can almost always find a way to say what you're trying to say without using the negative keywords.
The question is, what's more important to you? Using your page copy as written or making money from AdSense? I think the answer will vary from person to person. Since the main purpose of my pages is to make money, I'm willing to jump through hoops to ensure that my pages show targeted paying ads. Many others won't do it because they feel that they'll be compromising their editorial integrity (and I certainly understand and respect that feeling).
It all depends on the owners main purpose and goal for the site (and page).
The question is, what's more important to you? Using your page copy as written or making money from AdSense? I think the answer will vary from person to person. Since the main purpose of my pages is to make money, I'm willing to jump through hoops to ensure that my pages show targeted paying ads. Many others won't do it because they feel that they'll be compromising their editorial integrity (and I certainly understand and respect that feeling).
Then there's the question of ROI on rewrites. How much traffic occurs on the pages in question? What types of ads are likely to be displayed if you can find a workaround for words like "funeral" or "death"? For that matter, how much AdSense revenue is likely to be generated by news pages, period?
AdSense really wasn't designed for "run-of-network" advertising--it works best on pages about commercial topics. If you had a newspaper site, for example, it might be productive to use AdSense in the food section, the travel section, and the automotive section, but it's probably going to be a waste of space in the general news section (since most people aren't looking to buy products or services that relate to the war in Iraq, the 2004 Presidential campaign in the U.S., Tony Blair's political troubles, or the latest unemployment figures from the Department of Labor).
Of course, there may be occasional times when AdSense might work in a general news section; an ad for anti-cholesterol diets might generate clicks in an article on the latest heart-disease breakthrough, for example. If you think there's enough revenue potential for AdSense in your general news pages, then by all means use the code--but be prepared to display PSA ads much of the time. (And if that happens, it isn't necessarily a bad thing, since those ads may actually be doing some good.)
If you use words like: murder...death...and many more...The page will display PSAs every time, no exceptions (at least I haven't seen any).
There are exceptions because the trigger isn't simply based on having a single negative word (or even multiple negative words) on the page. I have a site about crime so I've done *significant* testing since the vast majority of my site's pre-existing pages were filtered for negative content by AdSense. It appears that Google's filter is based on some sort of combination of the # of negative words, a weight for each negative word and the density of the negative words. It's probably even more complex than that.
In other words, it's definitely possible to have some negative keywords on a page and still have AdSense show paying ads.
The catch in my site's case is that 90% of the top 100 search phrase referrers to the site contain negative keywords due to the nature of the site. If I do significant tinkering to page text to bypass negative content filters then SERP positioning will almost undoubtedly take a dive. And I'd rather not cut off the SERP spicket since the site's goal isn't to increase the percentage of impressions that show paying ads at the expense of having a fraction of the current daily visitors.
But I'm still seeing it fluctuate between normal and public service ads.
How long will it take to see if the idea fully worked?
Made the changes last night.
Also, i was getting nice ads mostly for gaming computers, but now they changed to these charity ones so it must be something in the HTML code that i added.
Any suggestions?
PSAs will not earn you money, but will count toward your impressions in your stats. If you are getting many PSAs, you should figure out why, or be sure to specify an alternate ad, so you could possibly earn income when Google does not have relevant ads for you to display.
Has anyone tried the new feature of adding your own ads? Does it work smoothly?
Has anyone tried the new feature of adding your own ads? Does it work smoothly?
I started taking advantage of the alternate ad functionality the day after it was implemented. It works properly and allows me to track impressions that don't show paying AdSense ads which allows me to make appropriate decisions.
