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Forum, Adsense and Chitika

         

PalX

11:32 am on Oct 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I wonder if anyone has Chitika on a forum? ý

I have Adsense on the showthread and home and they are located bellow the navbar, 728 ýx 90 ý

I’ve been working and testing it and I think I reached the best I could get from my forum, ýthis month is not over yet and I already broke all records and my earning is 4 times more ýthen August.ý

I tried two adsense on the same page and it was bad, so i cant do anything else with ýadsense, but im looking for alternatives, im hoping to put the Chitika right after the last ýpost on the showthread page. ý

So anyone is using Chikita on forums? What about both Chikita and adsense together on ýforums? ý

Sobriquet

12:20 pm on Oct 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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i tried, but as i said in the other post, chitika did not work for me at all. so back to amazon as alternative.

NoLimits

12:41 pm on Oct 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Chitika and Forums -

Lets just say, YES - it does work for some people. The CTR is about the same as AS on forums, perhaps even a little bit lower (very low) - but the EPC is through the roof.

Allow me to divulge a bit more. My Chitika earnings on forums are 5 fold what my AS earnings were. This is no exaggeration, in fact - it's a bit of an understatement. I started getting especially good results when they implimented the ability to blend the background color.

Using Chitika in conjunction with AdSense, I have nearly doubled my daily intake.

The only downside of Chitika I see thus far is that they are slicing about 30% of the fat off of my/others "unaudited earnings" at the end of the month. Hopefully this figure will go down.

nathanso

6:11 am on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm using Adsense and Chitika on my forum site.. two of each per page. Both run about 1/2% CTR but AS pays 8-cents a click and Chit around 30-cents, unaudited.

I run one wide skyscraper from each in my left margin, a 468x60 AS ad after the first post, and a 728x90 Chit ad just above the enter-new-post form at the bottom of my pages.

Keeping the non-contextual Chit ad inventory fresh is laborious, though, and I fear Chit's vendor's don't have enough SKUs for my narrow SIG.

jetteroheller

8:51 am on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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chitika did not work for me at all. so back to amazon as alternative

Is it really possible, that something works worse than Amazon?

1 July until 29 September on my German sites,
Amazon is used as PSA replacement

46702 impressions
609 clicks
1 conversion with 1,08 EUR win

makes eCPM just litte bit above 2 Cent

Has here anybody Amazon with eCPM abouve 1?

oddsod

4:30 pm on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Is it really possible, that something works worse than Amazon?

If, as Sobriquet's profile suggests, his sites get a lot of Indian traffic then he may be out of luck. Chitika don't have a lot of advertisers there and, in fact, discount a lot of clicks from, specifically, China and India.

I wouldn't speak of Chitika and Amazon in the same breath. Chitika's been so profitable for me that I'm working on replacing Adsense ads on most of my sites with Chitika ads (not all sites work well with Chitika, and on some sites I'm using a combination of C + A ads).
<snip>

It has several advantages over Adsense but in some respects Adsense is better. I tried to be fair in my coverage of both programs.

[edited by: Jenstar at 3:00 pm (utc) on Oct. 31, 2005]
[edit reason] promotional [/edit]

brokenbricks

6:22 pm on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Is anyone having a hard time targetting on topic ads with chitika? I started experimenting with it this week and I like the whole idea of it but it seems you have to have a technology or gadget related website to get on topic ads.

I've loaded my keywords in and I guess there are no advertisers for my niches because I keep getting ads for Ipod's, Laptops and TVs on totally non related websites.

jetteroheller

6:30 pm on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've loaded my keywords in and I guess there are no advertisers for my niches because I keep getting ads for Ipod's, Laptops and TVs on totally non related websites.

That I like at AdSense.

What ever new theme, I write about, Adsense has targeted ads for the site.

oddsod

6:36 pm on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Adsense does suit the lazy webmaster but if you take the trouble to target the keywords yourself then Chitika pays a lot more per click. For a list of keywords go to their blog, they have a link to a list they put together. Warning: You may still not find exactly what you're looking for as Chitika is very product based and doesn't suit services sites - like loans, travel etc.

brokenbricks

6:57 pm on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I wouldn't call myself lazy. I have no problem finding the keywords. Unfortunately after browsing that list, my sites don't seem to hit many of those areas. Hopefully they'll find more areas.

oddsod

7:01 pm on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Didn't mean to offend. :)

I'd consider myself lazy in that I like to have an SSI with the ad and have to change it at only one location. Till Chitika improves their ad targeting that may not be the most profitable way of using Chitika on a site covering a vast range of topics.

jetteroheller

7:06 pm on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Just checked with Alexa

[alexa.com...]

How did Chitika accomplish this big jump in traffic begining October?

a1call

7:11 pm on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi,
How did Chitika accomplish this big jump in traffic begining October?

Word of mouth advertising with praises like the one in this thread?

I wonder how much influence webmasterworld has had in this.

AlexMiles

11:03 pm on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)



Hahaha. I think they have Adsense to thank for that. Specifically 'smart pricing'.

sallam

3:58 am on Oct 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm using Adsense and Chitika on my forum site.. two of each per page.

Does google allow chitika ads with adsense in the same pages?

jonathanleger

4:33 am on Oct 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My understanding is since Chitika (by default) is not a contextual ad program (that is, you have to select the keywords yourself, it's not done automatically by a crawler) and since it is not an AdSense look-alike (it looks nothing like AdSense), you can keep both on the same page.

See the Chitika FAQ:

[chitika.com...]


8. Can I use eMiniMalls with Google Adsense?
Chitika cannot speak on Google's behalf. However, some of our clients who have contacted Google have been informed that it is ok to use eMiniMalls with Google Adsense when used in non-contextual mode (1, 2). By default, the eMiniMalls code is set to be non-contextual.

eMiniMalls service has no exclusivity conditions. You can choose to use eMiniMalls with any other ad service. If you are concerned about Google AdSense exclusivities, then please note that our eMiniMalls are not text ads and they don't even look like contextual text ads. We display products and best offers for those products from various merchants.

NoLimits

4:33 am on Oct 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes, so long as used in non-contextual mode (now the default mode)

oddsod

8:37 am on Oct 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes, you can use Chitika in contextual and non-contextual mode and in the latter it is not competing with Adsense and can share a page.

There is also the issue of Chitika search as the ad includes a search facility. Google have clarified that using Chitika search on the same page as Google search is acceptable as Chitika search is a search of their database rather than a search of the web.

Busy Retiree

12:45 pm on Oct 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have a website of educational materials and I'm experimenting with Chitika. It's a lot of work and so far is not giving the returns I had hoped for. My goal right now is $10 a day with them and I nearly made it one day. Results are erratic. I really like the look of the ads. I go to Chitika's page, use their search engine there and look for particular products and find the keywords that will get that product. Even so, I sometimes find that the link changes and I have to do more work to keep it relevant. Yesterday I had to redo several ads that had turned into ipod ads.

I know people say that you can put Chitika and Google on the same page, but I'm still keeping them on separate pages. I have too much to lose at Google if they should decide that it is not compliant to use them both on the same page. I wish Google would clarify their stand on that, but they probably won't.

oddsod

1:58 pm on Oct 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I wish Google would clarify their stand on that, but they probably won't.

They have clarified that it is OK to use Chitika on the same page as Adsense provided it's not contextual. If you have any reservations a simple email to Google should resolve them.

jetteroheller

4:41 pm on Oct 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My German Amazon account since 1 July

46702 impressions
609 clicks
1 conversion with 1,08 EUR win

My US Amazon account since 1 July

10501 impressions
250 clicks
0 conversion

Seems I should test Chitika as PSA replacement on my English pages.

Busy Retiree

2:50 pm on Nov 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks, oddsod for suggesting that I write to Google. I did write to them and I got the same reply that others have gotten; Chitika ads and Google ads are allowed on the same page if you make the Chitika ads non-contextual,
and if you have a Google search box, you cannot have the search box on the Chitika ads.

oddsod

2:53 pm on Nov 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I believe you can have the search box. Google has confirmed to others that the Chitika search doesn't compete with Google search as it's a search of the Chitika product database and not a web search.

Jenstar

5:41 pm on Nov 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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As the AdSense term/policies stand now, and as Chitika's search feature is currently configured to work, it is fine to use the search tab with AdSense.