88% down in everything

[Samsam1978]

Ok I feel done, I actually cried yesterday over it. All those amazing creative people wiped out due to AI overviews. I thought they would ease off the AI overviews but no it has got worse. 90% down and I am going to have to downgrade my server for the 2nd time. I will now make more money on Government benefits. Why is no-one doing anything, my site is nearly 20 years old.

[explorador]

gatormark: Here is what AI is saying

That's part of the problem I'm seeing: people discussing what AI is saying, not what people say, do, write, discuss, or have experienced. This year I was quite shocked reading a forum discussion where 2 antagonist battled saying "X AI said this", and the other replied "Z AI said this", it was amaz... no, it was stupid.

We write the content.
--Google index our content.
---Then Google used our content
----Then lots of people steal our content
-----NOW AI uses our content to "talk" in first person?
-----------And now people talk about what AI says... not what the authors or sources say?

Ha, not funny.

I don't mean to talk as if I was making a rant, or as I'm just upset by what's happening, I'm just describing how the market is messed up: it doesn't matter how much effort you put in, almost nobody will talk about you as an author or use your name, you are a nobody, just someone feeding the web and it's monsters, you literally have to redesign your strategies.

It's now easier to prepare great sushi and be known for that.

Editorialguy: I was a young editor for a national magazine in the heyday of magazine publishing. We paid $2,000 and up for a short story or article. I wonder what printed magazines are paying for stories and articles these days?

I used to literally get paid to write, had a GF who thought her future was secured writing from home, she couldn't get a job writing anymore, I still got paid, then left the company. People I know struggled for years to get paid, everyone moved on to other industries (yes, struggling).

You can still get paid, but it doesn't work like in the past, now is "we need 100 original articles per month", yeah, sure, pure original content, right?

Whitey: I imagine half of the readers here are blog publishers.

So for publishers who built their models on blogs and informational content, the shift is from trying to be discovered to becoming indispensable, by turning knowledge into small, data-driven utilities that sit inside user decisions, not on pages waiting to be found.

That's very well said.

The market sucks a lot these days, but most of the basic rules are still valid: -create or add value-

[Kendo]

I may have mentioned a couple of times that a class action will be required to fix things. But a "class action" might mean enlisting a lot of players who will contribute to legal costs, etc and the outcome if any, wouldn't be seen for many months or even years.

But there may be a better way - hit them where it hurts the most.

Whatever their turnover is, they will be dependent on that to pay their bills.

So what we need to do is have everyone paying them, suspend their account until such time as they fix the mess.

If anyone wants to lead this charge, you are most welcome to, and most welcome to claim the idea as your own. However I recommend a launch date a few months from now for time to enlist as many advertisers as possible, and also give them a chance to wake up and fix it before the launch date comes.

[tangor]

So what we need to do is have everyone paying them, suspend their account until such time as they fix the mess.

Might not have the result sought. This equates to self-deporting from the gravy train (and canceling all those small to moderate accounts) which improves their bottom line and accounting time, and actually raises the bar for pay to play.

Wish I had an answer...but I don't! (sigh)