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July 2023 Google Search Observations

         

superclown2

7:55 am on Jul 1, 2023 (gmt 0)




Users don't seem to mind Google's increasingly cluttered SERPs, if we're to believe the publicly available statistics about Google's market share.


With the greatest respect - do you not think that Google's monopoly of search has something to do with that? They are the default on just about every major browser and device (something they pay billions of dollars for) and most people out there don't even know that real search engines exist, let alone how to change defaults.

It is easy to be top dog when you're the only one in town. Even if you're a very poor and greedy one.



[edited by: not2easy at 6:34 pm (utc) on Jul 1, 2023]
[edit reason] End of month/New Month split cleanup [/edit]

christianz

9:19 pm on Jul 9, 2023 (gmt 0)

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No change here. Traffic as bad as previous days and within 1-2% of last week's figures.

EditorialGuy

10:34 pm on Jul 9, 2023 (gmt 0)

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First time in a long time that one of my sites is profiting from a Google update.

Speaking of which, what counts as a Google "update" these days unless it's confirmed? Rustybrick has reported on continuing volatility in the search results (as suggested by any number of tracking tools), but there's been no word from Google.

Are volatility and churn simply the new normal? Or should we expect confirmation of a July update from Danny Sullivan and the Google Search Status Dashboard at some point?

RedBar

10:22 am on Jul 10, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Are volatility and churn simply the new normal?

I feel it has been this way for several years now as G attempts to create what it sees as their optimum set of results. Of course the biggest problem with this optimum set would be that it would only satisfy a specific set of searchers and website owners simply because G has so many sites to choose from.

This, in turn, pushes G more and more to the class ads scenario with those willing to pay to be seen above the organics. It's probably not what many want to read however it's almost 90+% rolled-out now.

Cyril TechWebsites

11:44 am on Jul 10, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Drop, drop, drop. Any changes. You can update content, you can add new, you can do whatever you want - nothing will help you these days.

renatovieira

12:34 pm on Jul 10, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Heavy traffic yesterday. Today huge drop... :-|

ichthyous

2:55 pm on Jul 10, 2023 (gmt 0)

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I saw a huge drop in USA / CA traffic yesterday, and then at 2pm it suddenly turned and shot much higher, so ended the day -11% for USA. Today I am starting the day -64% on USA traffic at 11am! Canada also down 37%. But the rest of the world is strongly higher, including UK, europe, AU, and UAE. It seems that Google is going to perpetually siphon off the north american traffic while letting the rest of the world flow freely most days.

Atomic

5:46 pm on Jul 10, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Speaking of which, what counts as a Google "update" these days unless it's confirmed?

I believe that there are major, announced updates we all know and love. But there are also mini core updates that are not announced. I've noticed a lot of similarities between what happens when a core update is rolled out and these no name updates.

renatovieira

5:46 pm on Jul 10, 2023 (gmt 0)

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@ichthyous - Yesterday I had unusually high traffic. Today I observe a huge drop. Something big is happening...

ichthyous

6:26 pm on Jul 10, 2023 (gmt 0)

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@renatovieira my traffic has been strong except for USA and Canada. Today they are both down a lot, which means my total traffic is down. It's not search traffic though, it appears to be direct traffic that has vanished today.

I have noticed a distinct on/off pattern during the day...your USA traffic can be extremely low for hours then suddenly surge upwards for the rest of the day making up much of the drop. Strange and highly manipulated.

mhansen

8:51 pm on Jul 10, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Delete if not allowed, but I read this [mariehaynes.com] last week (A Marie Haynes blog about AI, the HCU updates and their relationship) and spent the weekend reviewing my own site, and many very high authority, well branded sites in the same market, that have experienced huge drops over the last 6-18 months of HCU updates. In my market, some of the leading brands (Like daily TV advertisers, +10m monthly visitors in SEMR now down to under 500k in 18 months, etc) have lost 90% of their traffic over the this time period. Much of what is written is immediately present and so easily recognized on those sites.

If not allowed please delete, but for anyone who is an SEO or publisher, has content that drives search traffic, etc - it popped a few light bulbs over my head and I've already begun testing some of the easily actionable takeaways I got from it.

Alex_1729

12:26 pm on Jul 11, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Speaking of which, what counts as a Google "update" these days unless it's confirmed?

These days, if it's higher than 8 on Semrush Sensor, I call it a Google update. Anything in between 5 and 8 is a sort of mini Google update for me. Updates are happening every day, but these are only worth looking at for me, especially if Semrush reports my niche is heavily affected, which is usually reflected in my analytics as well.

The site I mentioned still improving today, though slightly less. I see Semrush Sensor reports higher volatility again today, so I think this is normal.

superclown2

2:13 pm on Jul 11, 2023 (gmt 0)



for anyone who is an SEO or publisher, has content that drives search traffic, etc - it popped a few light bulbs over my head and I've already begun testing some of the easily actionable takeaways I got from it.


I still see, here in the UK:
1) Authority: in other words, heavy spending advertisers: trump everything.

2) Links: not necessarily relevant to the site's products or services pushes sites way above where they should be. In particular have watched an average site with hundreds of links on hacked Wordpress sites, which vanished from the SERPs a couple of years ago, bubble to near the top again for what I would term second level search terms before Christmas and it is still there.

3) Quality: I have watched a competitor putting enormous work into their site to make it far and away the best in the vertical. It rises above the rest but is still buried by the above for all but very specialised search terms. Their earnings will not be great.

4) Freshness: Google gives a boost to new content (once you have got them to list it (by no means guaranteed unless you have truly unique content): this only lasts a short time though before it sinks below (1) and (2).

5) Age of site: this is useful if the content stays fresh, but not too fresh; too many changes and a penalty can be triggered.

So: yes, quality matters, albeit in a minor way. Whether the amount of work you would have to put in, in order to get the crumbs off the table after the big spenders on ads and links have taken the majority of the business, is worth your while is debatable though. Launching a new site? Unless you have very heavy pockets don't even think about it unless you have a subject that no-one else has already written about. Found an obscure niche? A waste of time because Google will ignore any other than plain vanilla search terms. Putting a new site on an expired domain? That horse died ages ago.

To sum up; if you want to make major changes to a website because of advice that was written by someone with a book to sell I would be very careful if I were you.

ichthyous

2:55 pm on Jul 11, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Once again yesterday started the day with very low USA traffic and saw traffic on an upward trend all day, culminating at 9pm. By the end of the day I was in the positive on USA traffic. This morning both USA and UK traffic are off the cliff at 11am, down -48% and -50% each. Search traffic is -35%. Let's see if the late-day upward trend kicks in today.

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renatovieira

2:58 pm on Jul 11, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Very slowwww today, again...

mhansen

3:12 pm on Jul 11, 2023 (gmt 0)

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To sum up; if you want to make major changes to a website because of advice that was written by someone with a book to sell I would be very careful if I were you.


Fortunately, I've been building sites and handling SEO for myself and clients for quite a long time since I started this journey in 1998, and I know that changes of any kind, can be just as harmful as helpful, thus the reason we test in small chunks and wait for results. What I gleaned by reading her blog was fairly enlightening after experiencing slight drops of 1-3 positions over the last several months, comparing it to the content which displaced mine with a different set of glasses on and paying more attention to the presentation of that content. With structured hierarchies on a website, it's fairly simple to make changes to a single section with 25-30 pages of content and monitor results over 30 days to see if the changes have any positive or negative effect.

Content and structure our the easiest things we can work on, so they always get put to the front of the experiment line.

ichthyous

4:58 pm on Jul 11, 2023 (gmt 0)

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After a nice week or so of relatively stable traffic, I am seeing the previous pattern from April and May re-emerging. I have lost up to 89% of the traffic on a wide swath of my most important (and competitive) landing pages today. All of that loss if from the USA and UK it seems....the traffic from both countries seems to be turned off today.

Meanwhile, I am supposedly ranking 1-3 for almost all of these terms as of yesterday. In other words, the mysterious vanishing traffic scenario we saw earlier this year. I AM seeing a lot more ads on the page again.

JeepersCreepers1

5:02 pm on Jul 11, 2023 (gmt 0)

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The problem is Google only pay an attention on huge website, it does mean corporate site like BBC, NYT, etc. It's normal because these websites have an real impact on revenue from AdSense, ADX, etc. Finally, best option is create 10-20 spam's websites on wordpress, do an internal links and publish more and more not high quality content. In this case better be a sneaky SEO guy than typical guy. Everything what can we read published by specialist from Google are totally #*$! because Google need blind sheeps.

RedBar

5:41 pm on Jul 11, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Finally, best option is create 10-20 spam's websites on wordpress, do an internal links and publish more and more not high quality content.

Do I assume you are suggesting MFA sites (Made For Adsense)?

We all know, well should know, what happened to those.

JeepersCreepers1

6:35 pm on Jul 11, 2023 (gmt 0)

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@RedBar Not for MFA but websites linked to the main website include some key words and phrases but not too much because Google recognises that cheat. Release website only for MFA doesn’t work in long term. It’s clear. At this time Google need more and more content because they need to be a competitor for ChatGPT and social media websites are supporting by AI. Really Google has a huge problem. Time is running out but ChatGPT (also Microsoft pubCenter) is stronger every day and Facebook, Threads and WhatsApp will join as an another competitor for Google. For publishers in long term should be a good news.

RedBar

8:47 pm on Jul 11, 2023 (gmt 0)

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but websites linked to the main website

Aha, keyword satellite sites ! I had loads of those during the 90s/00s and they worked extremely well for several years since most search engines did not index all sites that well. This changed in the late 00s and from the 10s onwards most sites were being crawled reasonably well however Google is such a mess at the moment with not only poor crawling and strange rankings but also pages being dropped / removed for no apparent reason.

FWIW the last few months I have created precisely what you have suggested using my own template, not WP, and ensuring that the page info and image content is unique and of high quality. These sites are an average no more than 15 pages total and dedicated to that important keyword product.

IF this is successful I'll advise back here.

superclown2

7:25 am on Jul 12, 2023 (gmt 0)



Content and structure our the easiest things we can work on, so they always get put to the front of the experiment line.


Absolutely. The right internal linking structure, and 'sticky' content, can make a huge difference. My comments were not aimed at yourself (I appreciate that, like me, you have decades of experience) but at those who might perhaps be tempted to clutch at straws and make unwise changes without looking at the possible downsides.

Where I will disagree though is a 30 days test period. I have found time and again that even after fairly minor changes search positions can tank initially, then rise slowly over months. I have also seen the opposite effect time and again as well. The work I am doing at present (and I fully accept that I may be barking up the wrong tree) is aimed at results in a year and possibly longer. In this I am assuming of course that Google will still remain in it's present form, which is not a certainty bearing in mind the worldwide legal actions and the changes that AI may bring.

Google is a past master at deceiving those of us who try to game (their term, not mine) the system.

Martin Ice Web

11:44 am on Jul 12, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Big drop today. Started the day with -50% again and it didn´t get better so far.

But at least poeple a googplex didn´t lost their humour.
today googlesearchliason twittered:

Make websites for poeple not for search engines and you will be rewarded with traffic.


What a laugh. Make good websites with good content and you will be rewarded with google stealing your content.

renatovieira

1:47 pm on Jul 12, 2023 (gmt 0)

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I see my traffic fully manipulated since yesterday. There are exactly 10 clicks per minute. Yesterday's total pageviews were identical to the day before yesterday.

Today will be the third day with identical traffic. You can shamelessly notice a limit filter installed on my site. It's pathetic or some traffic limiter while some update is happening.

RedBar

1:57 pm on Jul 12, 2023 (gmt 0)

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My global sites are keeping steady their new lower levels of traffic which is a small bonus, the big bonus at the moment is my reduction in email spam and especially so French email spam.

Surely I can't be the only one to see this?

ichthyous

2:08 pm on Jul 12, 2023 (gmt 0)

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Yesterday was the big drop for me...today USA and UK are both down but not as much, so perhaps a recovery is in play. Heavy traffic from India though...I really hate blocking such a big country but these visitors are simply not going to become customers, and they steal a lot of my images to use for free. I have young 'fans' from India and also have gotten press there, but it's been years. Is there any reason why I should not block India at this point?

RedBar

6:20 pm on Jul 12, 2023 (gmt 0)

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19.00 UK time today and my last 12 hours, similar to last Wednesday, have been what I would describe "as expected" by historical traffi levels.. These huge ups and downs are perplexing, traffic used to be smooth, I could predict within low percentages my daily levels, these days it is haphazard to say the least.

Alex_1729

10:09 pm on Jul 12, 2023 (gmt 0)

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My informational site still rising nicely, even though Semrush reports almost 5.0 for my niche, which is usually when I see either a slight drop or a stagnation that day, until volatility reduces. This time, however, I'm seeing a steady increase after 2 weeks of stagnation. Who knows what's behind the corner, though...

saladtosser

8:38 am on Jul 13, 2023 (gmt 0)

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I was searching for "all different types of WIDGET/Thing" today and all top results were top 10 to 20 making me think there was only 20 of this particular widget whereas after scrolling down 8-9 spots I found a page listing 122 different types of this thing, search seems broken, if i'm looking for all the different types of something I want results based on the most complete list not the site with the most owner generated backlinks :( .....Bring back relevance google. Even a non mobile site was ranking at the top on mobile, wtf

ichthyous

2:30 pm on Jul 13, 2023 (gmt 0)

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I am still seeing USA / UK / CA traffic heavily affected this week on a round-robin basis...yesterday USA ended -4%, while UK was -28%. UK had started the day strong but dropped suddenly during the day. Today USA / CA are -40% while UK is +145%. Likewise, there is a return to having entire parts of my site losing traffic each day...this week the home page is -50% some days, other categories are -70% today, while the rest remain stable. This is not due to ranking shifts...the rank is stable but the traffic is just gone. I have not examined the ad layouts for these searches...does it really matter, it's not under my control and if there is no traffic resulting from ranking well then it's not a great expenditure of time.

Micha

2:51 pm on Jul 13, 2023 (gmt 0)

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The week actually went well, but today again a complete collapse. In my subject area there are again only the big websites with their DPA news, which are exactly the same on each of these websites. Well, variety has never been Google's strong point.
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