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Google Updates and SERP Changes - January 2021

         

MayankParmar

1:54 pm on Jan 1, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Traffic is very low for me as well. It dropped around December 14.


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browndog

7:20 am on Jan 20, 2021 (gmt 0)

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I'm seeing a slight increase over the past day, I've done a lot of work on the technical side, I hope that helps.

Meanwhile, I've just stumbled upon an article from a competitor with a published date 1st January 1970, the 'subject' of the topic wasn't discovered until 1983. That's pretty impressive. I wonder if they can give me next week's lottery numbers.

TalkativeEditorial

8:32 am on Jan 20, 2021 (gmt 0)

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@browndog

Out of interest and if you don't mind saying, which technical improvements have you worked on?
Feels impossible to know sometimes what is the 'right' thing to get on with.

SweetPotato

5:34 pm on Jan 20, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Google traffic up 30%~ on December 3 and has stayed stable since.

browndog

7:09 pm on Jan 20, 2021 (gmt 0)

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TalkativeEditorial: The site is 18 years old so has had many URL changes. I used an AHREFS trial to identify redirect issues and redirect chains and fixed that up. Also added internal links as they recommended. I actually really liked AHREFS and would have bought a subscription, but it's just so far beyond my budget.

Hired somebody to speed up the site, I'm not great with the technical stuff.

Disavowed some really ugly looking links. I still don't know how you end up with dodgy links when you've not actively sought them out (also never paid somebody to do SEO or build links for me). I've done other stuff, but can't remember it all.

Focusing on social media, which I resent because there's only so many hours in a day. But the site has 100k followers on FB, so sharing my posts there in the hope they'll share etc.

ON page SEO:

As of now, I'm taking my rose coloured glasses off regarding how I view my content, especially the formerly top-ranking articles that are now nowhere. One, in particular, was 4,000 words and it was way too much. It was my pride and joy and I think I just tried to keep making it better. But 4,000 words for most people is way too many (I was repeating a lot of things over and over). I've managed to massively condense it down without actually depriving the visitor of any important information. I've also been using SurferSEO which is quite helpful for identifying key phrases (and therefore important information) that I may not have. I'm trying to really focus my attention on the best possible experience for the user. It's hard at times, because it's just me, and I am competing against multi-national companies whose thin content outranks me. But even if I can get into the top five, it would be better than being nowhere. This is day two of seeing a slight upswing, the 4,000-word article has gone from over 100 to 64. So still on page six, but at least it's coming back.

Off topic, I have a friend in an industry that I write about quite a lot. In his line of business, he is constantly asked 'is a okay for b', and he tells them to go to my site to see. But it's still a pain for the customer to do that. My husband came up with the brilliant idea of creating a QR code. So that's what I did last week, friend is displaying the code in 10 locations in the shop (it's big), and the customer can go right to the post. If this takes on, it could be used by potentially thousands of other stores which sell the same product. Unless somebody copies it.

topaz

10:15 pm on Jan 20, 2021 (gmt 0)

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In news and discover I am noticing delayed uptake for some sites, including both of mine. Really high authority sites seem to fine and getting their articles within hours. I seen WaPo got one in, in 2 minutes.

Psalber

11:30 pm on Jan 20, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Hi BrownDog, thanks for an informative post. I think I am in the same boat having a minuscule staff and competing against the big guys - all of whom are owned by multinational branding companies. It is great to read the details of what you have done and thanks for the tip about Surfer SEO. I too continually tweak, update, rewrite popular articles to keep them current. I am in the health space so we must continually update articles. Good luck with your rankings.

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12:57 pm on Jan 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Google News seems a bit challenged today. Not sure why i'm getting global news in a news search.

saladtosser

1:10 pm on Jan 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Hmm, I accidentally published an article on my site that only contained the title (with the keywords I was targeting) and a photo of the item while I worked on the rest of the page content. I noticed the next day it was ranked 2nd place with just the blank page and H1 title... I updated the page with the 600+ word article I was working on and once it was indexed the page dropped to page 4.... So I removed all the text again and sure enough, once it was indexed without any content except the h1 and photo went back to number 2 page one. Any ideas? Less is more?

The text was 100% original, Grammarly scored it 100% on every test including Plagiarism and was written for people, not search engines, so no keyword stuffing....

topaz

1:35 pm on Jan 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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You should have left it alone after you added the text. It would have returned just the same.
I do that from time to time..with articles that are breaking news.

saladtosser

1:52 pm on Jan 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Ive put the text back now but wanted to work out why. Makes me think Google prefers more to the point pages from this test. Guess ill see if it drops back to page 4 once its been reindexed and check again after a few weeks. If it stays on page four might adjust my content strategy to more bite-size!

TalkativeEditorial

2:12 pm on Jan 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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@browndog thanks for that comprehensive reply! I hope your efforts pay off.

The challenge, personally speaking anyway, is very much when there are no glaringly obvious glitches that chime with some of the anomalies in the ups and downs of traffic fluctuations. Really frustrating.

renatovieira

2:25 pm on Jan 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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After a few days of great traffic, today a big drop. Has anyone noticed anything different today?

TalkativeEditorial

7:43 pm on Jan 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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In news and discover I am noticing delayed uptake for some sites,


Always been like this for us. But only for Discover. News is instant, Discover is a different beast. Extremely furstrating.

markseo

7:52 pm on Jan 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Saw a big traffic surge around midday to early afternoon in UK. Seems to have calmed down now and all back to normal. Bounce rate ticked up at the same time so probably won't equate to higher conversions. Familiar story.

Cryogen

9:02 pm on Jan 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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@renatovieira

You are not alone. My traffic also dropped noticeably today. The drop seems to be comparable to that from the beginning of December 2020. Let's hope it will be reverted in a few days time in the same way it happened in December.

RedBar

6:41 pm on Jan 22, 2021 (gmt 0)

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January's traffic so far about where I hoped it would be considering everything that's going on however some "western" areas are noticeably quieter.

TalkativeEditorial

9:12 am on Jan 23, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Is Google Analytics glitching for anyone else? Real time's total is waaaay higher than the total sum from 'active' pages

renatovieira

12:56 pm on Jan 23, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Is Google Analytics glitching for anyone else? Real time's total is waaaay higher than the total sum from 'active' pages


Sometimes it happens to me too. But then it is corrected.

At the moment, everything is ok.

jmorgan

12:58 pm on Jan 23, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Just wanted to see if I was alone in this.

There is a website that is quite obviously inferior to mine (at least in my heavily biased opinion) yet constantly outranks my website in the SERPs. The only way I can deduce that they are able to outrank me is that they have some kind of personal/internal connection with Google wherein a top-level executive at Google has dictated to their staff that abc.com (their domain) gets an unfair SERP bonus (despite being inferior) to xyz.com (my domain) because his buddy works at abc.com.

I honestly can't think of any other reason why such a clearly inferior website outranks mine.

MayankParmar

1:57 pm on Jan 23, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Can all of you check your enhancement reports? I am seeing a big drop in AMP, Mobile and other enhancement reports.

ChokenBako

3:46 pm on Jan 23, 2021 (gmt 0)

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I can see traffic improvements of about 20% compared to last week. Anybody else sees this too?

TalkativeEditorial

5:21 pm on Jan 23, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Sometimes it happens to me too. But then it is corrected.


Yeah, it always self-corrects, but it has been happening a lot lately. It just happened again but the opposite way around (total was lower with one page randomly spiking). It drives me mad because I alwasy panic that it might be a mistake somewhere.

TalkativeEditorial

3:49 pm on Jan 24, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Completely out of ideas with Google Discover's algo. Not complaining, but for one site I manage, one of the best performing pieces recently is, essentially, a press release with a few tweaks for style and an added intro. Not the first time it's happened either. Plenty of fresh, original, new content (relating to the 'trending' article) published since but completely ignored on Discover - despite going and adding internal links pointing towards them - including from the 'trending' article.

Really wish that there was a help forum or some sort of support or just anything to just give some sort of insights into how this system works. Because a link to a generic blog to fOcUs oN cOnTeNt is not useful.

topaz

3:53 pm on Jan 24, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Ditto on that. Sometimes the most low effort stuff makes bank on Discover (not complaining), and then the thing you spend weeks putting together falls flat. (complaining)

TalkativeEditorial

4:57 pm on Jan 24, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Makes me feel incredibly defeated. If there was any sort of logic to it which could be pointed to and shown as the difference then it wouldn't be so frustrating. But literally, the only difference is original content (not good enough for Discover) and not original content (Discover loves it!)

westcoast

6:31 pm on Jan 24, 2021 (gmt 0)

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I have noticed my site dropping for its main keyword in the following manner:

Literally every 2 hours it drops one more spot.

It was #2 (for 20 years). Then over the last 48hours it dropped to 3..5...6..7..9... now it's at 11.

Does anyone have any explanation why a site would drop like this, suddenly, and very surely and steadily?

renatovieira

8:32 pm on Jan 24, 2021 (gmt 0)

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@westcoast - I don't know if it's related to me, but I had a strange experience yesterday. My main keyword has always been at #2. Yesterday the whole day was at #1. ((This is not normal)) - I received a lot of traffic for many hours. Today it returned to #2. I think there are some tests going on.

MayankParmar

6:07 am on Jan 25, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Drop in the number of indexed pages under the enhancement reports (AMP, mobile, etc) appears to be a widespread issue.

insideout

1:44 pm on Jan 25, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Important dropping in traffic today in UK and France. Maybe some testing is going on now

Lisa01

2:45 pm on Jan 25, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Hello. Today morning, Bing deindexed my website. The site isn't appearing on Yahoo search and Duck Duck Go as well. I emailed them and now I'm waiting for their response. Any idea what could be going on?
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