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Google Updates and SERP Changes - September 2020

         

RedBar

3:53 pm on Sep 1, 2020 (gmt 0)

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I know some of you are not going to like this however here are my metrics for August 2020:

Global B2B Site 1 PVs v July +27.7%, v August 2019 +332%

Global B2B Site 2 PVs v July 22.9%, v August 2019 +299%

UK Hotel / pub PVs v July 60.3%, v August 2019 +40.25%

All other sites have shown excellent traffic increases, several with their busiest month ever for instance:

UK Specialist widget site v August 2019 +212.2%

The B2B sites ought to continue to show growth as I add more specialist widgets, the interesting thing will be my melding of 90% of Site 2 into Site 1 as from today, 1st September.

Realistically I cannot see the hotel / pub site doing more simply because we're not adding any more information plus the live music scene is still not happening other than selected outdoor acoustic sessions and with the end of the Government's Eat Out to Help Out promotion we expect the food service to drop considerably.

All-in-all, for an August, a quite unexpected traffic month plus all the respective businesses are reporting good enquiries and real sales which is the real test insofar as I am concerned.

TalkativeEditorial

11:47 am on Sep 15, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Hi - anyone else noticing featured snippets disappearing for some queries? Happened last week and recorded on Mozcast, seeing it again now. So there is no position zero, just standard 1, 2, 3?


There's a lot of movement on the mobile SERPS, specifically with AMP. If you check out the Rank Ranger resources, you might also see some fluctuations there. I'm actually seeing more....I suspect something is afoot or at least being tested.

MayankParmar

11:54 am on Sep 15, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Coverage report just got updated after two weeks of delay!

Semrush sensor is higher than usual (6.0)

samwest

12:20 pm on Sep 15, 2020 (gmt 0)

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With less people spending on ads, I'd venture to say that much of the money Google earns and the biggest traffic disruptor is that one glaring block at the very top of every page that used to be called "SHOP FOR [SEARCH TERM], which looks like nothing more than an elaborate affiliate linking scheme. Now days, it just says ADS...which is disingenuous...because it would not involve ad pennies, but rather percentage of sales. A HUGE difference. That blocks appears and disappears regularly in our vertical. When gone, we do well.

If you even place a single Share-a-Sale or DJ (both of which are now virtually dead) or any other dedicated merchant affiliate link on your page, Gorg will slap you with a penalty and drop your page like a hot potato.

That would be terribly hypocritical. IMHO, also one of the biggest anti-competitive "draw offs" of traffic.

Interestingly, I compared all our site performance data with their published Q3 performance graph and the similarity was nearly in lockstep. When they were up...so where our sales...when they were down...our sales tank...the reason? When they drop, they can increase pressure on all our sites in an attempt to squeeze the stone. Makes sense. How? They can simply turn up the AI gain. It's likely quite 'magical' and deals with keyword targeting and where the black boxing really kicks in.

Or, maybe it's just because they are the 800lb Gorilla in the room.

I always correlate an earnings miss (which G can monitor in real time) with higher pressure on traffic as it is temporarily diverted to G interests. These anomalies would typically not occur in unfettered natural traffic, as our data from 1996-2010 shows.

While I do appreciate and use their "free" services (in exchange for my souls content and data), what Google really "gets done" best is consistently making themselves insane amounts of profit. If they don't do +20% annually it's cause for shareholder panic.

Unfortunately, they then squander that money into dead end projects that benefit nobody, like Google Glass or self driving cars, this is money that could provide food on our tables, but I digress...

From where we sit,, it just appears SERP traffic changes behaviorally (ie:turn Zombie) when the master tally is off target. It's like a big profit driven PID control loop with loss as the error signal. This is not speculation. This is observation based on two decades of empirical evidence. In all fairness it's also not stated as fact. Nothing ever can be with a black box.

My observation this week is the same as all others being reported here. Dead traffic and all user Zombie behavior.

With the recent GART glitching, and these traffic/behavior indications, it appears something is brewing again.
Let me consult my OUIJA board.

Here's the Google Q3 report again since it's a page back now. [cnbc.com...]

When things are good, I'm not reporting...so, yeah, things are not good again.
Apologies for the long windy one.

RedBar

1:13 pm on Sep 15, 2020 (gmt 0)

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@markseo

I don't think there's been a "stangard" SERPs layout in ages, certainly it changes for every different query I have.

I reckon G's layout manager used to be a supermarket manager who constantly changes the position of everything you regularly want with the hope of getting your eyes in front of something else.

Sometimes it works however most of the time it simply annoys people when you move it around too much.

MoneyPincher

2:04 pm on Sep 15, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Any news on the latest algorithm update? Last week, I got hit by an algorithm update that decimated half my traffic. Could it be a Broad Core algorithm update?

RedBar

2:20 pm on Sep 15, 2020 (gmt 0)

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An educated historical guesstimate would be next week, 21st September onwards.

RedBar

2:38 pm on Sep 15, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Apologies, welcome to WebmasterWorld MoneyPincher!

MayankParmar

3:13 pm on Sep 15, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Last year's September update was released on 24th.

RedBar

3:54 pm on Sep 15, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Occasionally it rolls into October however usually not much later since it is the critical Xmas-shopping update.

pontifex

7:34 pm on Sep 15, 2020 (gmt 0)

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When a lot of engineers fiddle around with stuff and are hit by a pandemic, it could all just be pushed (no new iPhone today) by 4-8 weeks. So my guestimate is: if they push a core update into October, it will be the last one we see this year... And I would really hate that, because a new site takes 2-3 core updates to ripe to its potential...

samwest

7:52 pm on Sep 15, 2020 (gmt 0)

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This week is horrible, it keeps getting worse every week. Been watching Matomo vs. GART all day, and GART keeps showing fake traffic long after it is off the site. Each day this week starts out with an early morning conversion then clamped and zombies the rest of the day. Completely unnatural traffic flow and behavior...on page one results no less.

MayankParmar

8:52 pm on Sep 15, 2020 (gmt 0)

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The September or October core update will be the last update in 2020. Last year, updates were released in March 2019, June 2019 and September 2019, and then in January 2020. Three core updates a year.

ichthyous

9:16 pm on Sep 15, 2020 (gmt 0)

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My traffic keeps rising, both on my site and also a slow but steady uptick in clicks and impressions on GSC. My UK traffic remains abnormally high, while USA traffic is really up and down. Not many serious inquiries and no conversions for days. Today I visited one of my vendors...they are working out of a subleased space in the city. They are down to two employees that I can see. The company they lease from had no employees at work, the space was empty...no receptionist and lights off. Lets not underestimate how much the pandemic has hit the USA economy...especially the cities.

ViktorN

9:59 pm on Sep 15, 2020 (gmt 0)

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@MoneyPincher what niche is your site at?
Also, were there a core update last week? haven't heard of it.

However, I'm noticing a fatal drop in Google Discover traffic since the beginning of Sept. A finance news blog.
After two great months (Jul/Aug), Sep is so far terrible.

RedBar

11:55 pm on Sep 15, 2020 (gmt 0)

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I was just wondering, of those posting about dramatic swings, ups and downs etc, are you in short-term attention sectors rather than long-term?

Are you riding current trends / hopes / populism / social / news / whatevers ?

I'm not criticising you, just establishing that one widget v another widget may not be the same:-)

In all honesty I couldn't, nor could my industry, cope with endless fashion trends and changes ... quite simply how much has the current Covid situation had adverse effects on your business, are you feeling that G is to "blame" when it's current lifestyle alterations?

As many of you know I am involved in a UK pub / hotel and the new scenarios / expectations being placed on us change every week and we are expected to comply and cope, try explaining some of this stuff to inebriated people whose ONLY source of information is FB and NOT the official Govt 80-page pdf!

All sectors have been affected differently in many different ways, we're all learning new ways to adapt and survive.

Athedian

1:49 am on Sep 16, 2020 (gmt 0)

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RedBar - Long-term here and in a market where it's very stable and niche because there's no other similar markets out there. Yet, it insanely fluctuates all over the place.

Anyway, traffic seems to continue to rise for me even though GSC is showing average page ranking drop. So click rates are going through the roof, users are increasing, impressions are increasing and page ranking drops? I don't even know what to do or what to forecast anymore with these inconsistent numbers.

Bounce rate continues to rise to never-before-seen number but I more or less have found out a possible problem - random links appearing for our site which I've never seen before on Analytics. Either we got URL hacked, SEO attacked or the previous team messed up the site so badly that the entire coding structure self-imploded. Regardless, at least 1/3 of the bounce rate came from this, which I'm still fixing right now.

Still gotta say, previous team, you guys are just bad, man.

HereWeGo123

7:00 am on Sep 16, 2020 (gmt 0)

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It's almost always the quietest right before the storm. I do see some volatility, but I suppose it's so regular now, that no one really responds to it since it's the norm. Anyone noticing any traffic pattern changes? We had spontaneous spikes for a couple of hours today.

MayankParmar

7:24 am on Sep 16, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Heads up: If you switch to official AMP plugin from unofficial plugin or clean install official AMP plugin, your AMP URL structure will change to ?amp from /amp/. It looks like Google is going to recommend ?amp for all modes since this URL structure works on all sites.

markseo

8:04 am on Sep 16, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Big volatility today according to SEMRUSH. Seen a gradual uptick in traffic over last 7 days too which is not uncommon in run up to core update in my experience. Plus featured snippets changing a lot. Could be today the update starts, but I'm guessing more likely mid next week based on dates from previous years.

MayankParmar

8:21 am on Sep 16, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Featured snippets disappeared reappeared disappeared again for me too... and that may have caused an uptick in Semrush volatility.

ViktorN

8:51 am on Sep 16, 2020 (gmt 0)

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@MayankParmar

did you switch from AMP4WP plugin? why?

Regardless, I'm using the above, and defined AMP URLs as ?amp, so this shouldn't be a problem. But why did you move?
maybe this is part of the problem of the missing Discover traffic?

pontifex

9:24 am on Sep 16, 2020 (gmt 0)

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I'd say, it is rolling... results on the new sites go from "40ish" to 200+ and back in seconds... too big a shuffle to not be a bigger update.

[edited by: pontifex at 9:43 am (utc) on Sep 16, 2020]

MayankParmar

9:37 am on Sep 16, 2020 (gmt 0)

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@ViktorN I haven't moved.. but I noticed this when I was testing the official version (v2) on staging site. I don't think this is AMPForWP's fault because I still have Discover traffic from countries, while the US, UK and others are zero.

glakes

10:49 am on Sep 16, 2020 (gmt 0)



I'd say, it is rolling...

@pontifex

SERP monitors agree with you. If it's indeed a core update, I usually see 6-12 hours of steady conversions when Google's walled garden is briefly taken down. When those walls go back up, Amazon crowded SERPS decorate the walls Google has built. Only with a 25' extension ladder can the consumer see beyond the narrow path Google has constructed for them.

TalkativeEditorial

10:55 am on Sep 16, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Peep the SEMSensor. Hold on tight :-)

Dooku

11:02 am on Sep 16, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Big update rolling since 24 hours already..........going to get messy :-)

MayankParmar

11:14 am on Sep 16, 2020 (gmt 0)

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*starts sweating*

insideout

11:32 am on Sep 16, 2020 (gmt 0)

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itttttt'S TIME ..... RUMBLE IN THE JUNGLE :)

KaseyM

11:54 am on Sep 16, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Seeing shifts.

StupidIntelligent

12:21 pm on Sep 16, 2020 (gmt 0)

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