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Confirmed: Google Site Speed Data Fed by Chrome Users

     
1:21 pm on Apr 11, 2018 (gmt 0)

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Not much of a surprise, but always good to get official confirmation:
The short version is that Google is now using performance data aggregated from Chrome users who have opted in as a datapoint in the evaluation of site speed (and as a signal with regards to rankings).

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John [Mueller] has confirmed this information in a Google Webmaster Central Hangout [15m30s, in German], where he explains they're using this data along with some other data sources (he doesn’t say which, though notes that it is in part because the data set does not cover all domains).

Google Confirms Chrome Usage Data Used to Measure Site Speed [moz.com]
11:09 am on Apr 19, 2018 (gmt 0)

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This is not surprising. I always assumed they were doing so since a while.
12:04 pm on Apr 19, 2018 (gmt 0)

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Using user data like this shouldn't be a "secret" or something that eventually gets confirmed. Should be common knowledge for all chrome users that google goes as far as to track/spys on every little detail of their browsing exp and then uses that data for their own use.
12:27 pm on Apr 19, 2018 (gmt 0)

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Should be common knowledge for all chrome users that google goes as far as to track/spys on every little detail of their browsing exp and then uses that data for their own use.

This is certainly mentioned in the TOS that all users have to accept when installing Google Chrome (or a system which comes with Google Chrome). But you know, as long as regulators are not imposing to show such or such thing in a clear way, or to obtain explicit consent, big companies will do the very strict minimum in term of information.

Also, Google can argue that you can disable this from the settings. In Settings > Advanced > Privacy & Security, there are several options. Two of them "might" be related to this:

- Automatically send some system information and page content to Google to help detect dangerous apps and sites
- Automatically send usage statistics and crash reports to Google
10:24 pm on Apr 19, 2018 (gmt 0)

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It's a pre-checked checkbox that appears under the TOS when you download Chrome. I always uncheck it, but most people probably don't.

Using user data like this shouldn't be a "secret" or something that eventually gets confirmed. Should be common knowledge for all chrome users that google goes as far as to track/spys on every little detail of their browsing exp and then uses that data for their own use.

I don't think it's really been a secret that Chrome collects the data, though I'm sure many users are not aware of it. The confirmation was just regarding the usage of that data to improve the SERPs, and site speed in particular.
5:32 am on Apr 20, 2018 (gmt 0)

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Oh yes, data to improve human life. Hand it over and we can make things better than ever. The reality is the data is used to make Google's products better than anyone else. Who can compete with their data? Easy. Nobody. Our Android phones provide that same advantage. Can't compete with that data pool and with that comes products and intelligence that nobody else can even sniff. I took it for granted that this was a default of opting in rather than having to tick the box to activate it. In a sense this topic is like saying the sun is hot.
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Anyone think Edge doesn't collect data for Bing?
10:24 am on Apr 20, 2018 (gmt 0)

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Anyone think Edge doesn't collect data for Bing?


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2:28 pm on Apr 20, 2018 (gmt 0)

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If Microsoft does it too does that mean it's okay? They do it, so we can do it. And because they do it and we do it, then it's just okay to do it. We do it because we can. I'm sure Edge and their .001% market share will just kill it with their data to create the ultimate product(s).