Does Matching Title & H1 Trigger Google Overoptimization Penalty?

[smilie]

Hi guys,

Just bringing this topic up again, because it has changed over the years, possibly.

When Page Title = H1, can this result in Google overoptimization Penalty?

Another words, is this "keyword stuffing" according to Panda?

And can this trigger Penguin Filter as well, because once your page is scanned by spammer bots, it'll get links with your title = KeyWords , which will trigger "too many keyword links" - Penguin penalty?

Obviously, a number of software programs, like blogs and Wordpress do it. But question remains.

Let's discuss, what any of you think.

Previous discussions 5+ years back were all ok on this. But in site of animal updates, I don't think are valid:
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[tangor]

7. Given that goggle tends to build/replace any h1/title with its own choice neither is an optimization concern. Over Optimization is nothing more than keyword stuffing with a fancy title and should be trounced at any given time.

[mirrornl]

In theory you are right, but i am still not 100% sure this is always the way it is ttreated

[30K_a_month]

HELLO I WILL HELP.

I have learned that if I have the keyword in the URL and have H1 with the keyword in it doesn't rank well at all. As soon as i only have either H1 or keyword in URL i can rank better.