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Is Phantom 2 actually Panda moving to real time?

     
8:08 am on Jul 21, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Is the Phantom update Panda moving to real time?


Phantom Tremors Continue As SEOs Wait For Panda Latest Tremor on 7/14/15
July 17, 2015 By Glenn Gabe
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I desperately need a Panda update to see if changes I've made will fix but in the event that it doesn't, Panda moving to real time would literally be like Christmas.

Has anyone seen a definitive Panda recovery over the last few weeks?

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10:48 am on July 21, 2015 (gmt 0)

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webmuppet - Thanks for the link. Normally, new users don't have linking privileges, but Glenn Gabe is so widely considered an authority in analyzing Panda updates that I'm allowing the link and encouraging members to read his article. The article contains a lot of potentially valuable information about assessing whether recent changes you've seen might have been Panda, and suggests that we may be seeing the beginning of a real-time Panda.

He suggests that one possibility is that the Phantom tremors might be adjustments of thresholds for each quality factor.

I myself having been looking forward to some kind of relaxation on similar product pages of the sort needed in certain types of B2B ecommerce websites. It would be great to have the quality of the rest of the site cushion the algo into going softer on similar products of the kind that manufacturers need to list.

So, that's a sign I've been looking for. What else are others seeing, or hoping to see?
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Do you mean that the product pages are pulling the whole site down, or the rest of the site pulling the product pages up?
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Thanks for the link; good article and worth reading.
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Since google said it was going to make these updates real-time, it's very likely that this is their attempt to automate Panda. It's also possible that it's not working to their engineer's total satisfaction, or they are now satisfied to set it free, hence the earlier attempts described as tremors.

This could be it, and we'll never see Panda 5.0
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Glenn Gabe has done several studies since this thread, continuing where this thread is leading to. See his comments about updates that occurred in the second half of November and are reported in this newer thread...

Nov 2015 Phantom updates: user-engagement factors + Panda
Nov 19 and Nov 28
https://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4780955.htm [webmasterworld.com]

He's suggesting that the two November updates he examined in earlier threads may indicate that changes are moving from quality to user-engagement, and are likely to be a significant part of this Phantom series.

(I'm going to lock this thread, but please advise if you need it opened for any reason.)