Panda Refresh in 2-4 Weeks - Finally after 6+ Months!

[SnowMan68]

After 6+ months we are finally going to see a Panda refresh in the next few weeks.

At SMX Advanced tonight, Google’s Gary Illyes announced that the next Panda update will happen in the upcoming weeks. He said he expects it in the next two to four weeks.

Illyes referred to it multiple times as a data refresh, not an algorithmic change. So sites that have been suffering from this algorithm may see a recovery in the near future. However, not all sites will see a recovery: Some may not recover, and new sites may also be hit by this data refresh.

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[webmuppet]

@Lorel , Yes this is something me and a couple of other webmasters have discussed recently in another thread. I am monitoring this more in detail and will report my findings. If you have the time and interest you can flag a couple of websites you believe are pre-Panda spam and check their SERP positions before and after. The more data we have the better.

So are you suggesting people seeing minor rises now are ones considered to be spammy by Google?

[Johan007]

Agree to the above with webmuppet. Sites hit by Panda quality filters are not all spammy or even poor quality. I define Panda algorithm as a crude rudimentary search filter that attempts to remove poor quality sites that have either spammy thin content or content that is duplicated.

During the roll out Panda has caused collateral damage. Websites that are currently affected by the Panda algorithm and have made the necessary quality changes to their website will hopefully no longer be affected by Panda in the imminent update.

What worries me is that many collateral damaged sites who do not keep an eye on SEO have no idea that they are infected.

[indyank]

The traffic is continuing to hold and the analytics is showing decent improvements in metrics unlike the previous times....hope those metrics considered as positives...

I think people should first understand panda, differences between "low quality" and "spam", what panda is said to target, signals used etc. before generalizing their views....

[supercyberbob]

[twitter.com...]

Yup.

[Atomic]

Yup.

That's what I'm sayin'

[Viraj143]

any news of panda update/refresh?

[Lapizuli]

Since July 5, we've been seeing a small surge with our UG content pages that are on a third-party large UGC site. That content site also surging similarly, same dates. Think it's Panda-related but not spiky like usual when bad things happen. Anyone else?

[Slinkywizard]

@editorialguy

I think that if (and that's a big if) you're able to look at an unexpected drop in traffic and categorically state that it's Panda, you can do something about it. After the last Panda update last year, we were hit, but it took us months to figure out what we'd been hit with and why.

Do you see? It's not about how long it takes to identify and fix issues, it's how long you have to wait after that. It took us 4 months to fix our issues, but there is no reason on God's green Earth why we should have to wait another 6 months to recover.

If data refreshes were regular, recovery would happen when sites who throw the necessary resources at the problem have finished the work, not six months later.

A refresh once a year also, conversely, means there's a deadline. Imagine getting hit, throwing every resource at it, but missing the deadline. Should anyone in such a situation have to wait another year? Such waits are unnecessarily punitive, often to decent sites that have problems that aren't obvious to its webmasters.

[MrSavage]

At this point, I will wait for a ruckus around here before even bothering to check my stats. The Google announcements around this update have caused me to simply not care, and not believe. Yeah, update this week, no, next week, or maybe it will be next month. Hang on, oh, it's now delayed. Sorry folks... Just sick of it honestly. I just wait because I'm sort of confident (makes no sense I know) that when something does happen, that there should be (in the past there was) some more activity around here. Or, people could be like me, tuned out, and don't care. I'm just await this update so I can fill up my trash can with a number of sites I've been running. Why pay the $10 a year for the domain.

[Slinkywizard]

@MrSavage

I know EXACTLY how you feel.

How soon is soon?

Soon?

Next week soon?

Sure...

[2 weeks later]

How soon now?

Soon.

Oh, just **** off.

[RedBar]

Excellent MrSavage, there are many, many people around the world echoing your thoughts.

In a few years time when the book "How Google Screwed-Up The WWW" is published I wonder how many of us will have been invited to contribute to it?

[rustybrick]

Anyone notice any Panda shifts? People are asking me but normally you guys would notice it first.

[webcentric]

Anyone notice any Panda shifts? People are asking me but normally you guys would notice it first.

The lack of notice is deafening.

[rustybrick]

Yea, I guess not. Thanks everyone for confirming no Panda update.

[Zagek]

Over the past weekend I did notice a huge spike in crawls, but that is honestly it. No major changes in monitored rankings.

[Slinkywizard]

Still absolutely nothing here, and I am 100%-confirmed 'under panda' since Sep 14. Have vastly improved and culled necessary bits of the site, so expecting recovery.

[netmeg]

I dreamed I got Panda'd last night. Does that count?

[IamnotMattCutts]

the update or actual animal

[webcentric]

Refreshing the next generation of Pandas appears to still be very difficult when attempted in a zoo. Google's panda has an unusually long gestation period (e.g. unknown) compared with the real animal. Dreaming doesn't seem to help with this problem. More intercourse at Google doesn't seem to help. I could go on and on but I have real work to do.

[Nutterum]

@webcentric - good one sir! Hats off to you. Though I`d really like Panda to mop up the filth off my SERPs. It's disheartening to see search results with websites that look like the modern versions of the scrapped-content-dreamweaver-abomination that was the internet 10 years ago.

[MrSavage]

Thanks for the LOL @ webcentric.

[webcentric]

Got to laugh occasionally. Pandas take a long time to train apparently. Heck, I'm not looking for a juggling act. Already have that. ;)