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Google's "e-commerce update" of early February, 2015

         

Robert Charlton

10:25 am on Feb 14, 2015 (gmt 0)

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In yesterday's Search Engine Roundtable Fri Feb 13 video recap of The Week in Search, Barry Schwartz has an unusual amount of news, large for almost any week. Barry looks at the Google algo update of this past week, involving some very large movements in some serps, which Google has said is neither Panda nor Penguin related.

The update is being labelled as an "ecommerce update", and Barry's report includes several possibly overlapping stories involving both Webmaster Tools and Google Analytics data dropouts which might be confusing issues for some webmasters, as well as a reference to a preliminary analysis of the update....

Google E-Commerce Update, Search Impact Report, Panda Or Penguin Whitelists & More
rustybrick - trt 7:31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-I-Wmui4tY [youtube.com]

The update, perhaps not yet completely settled, is being discussed in our Google Updates and SERP Changes thread for February 2013 [webmasterworld.com...]

Most interesting to me is the analysis by Marcus Tober of Searchmetrics, cited by Barry, which looked at a considerable amount of data, and relates the big changes to "brand e-commerce keywords". It is a very preliminary analysis, by no means the final word on this...

Google Brand-eCommerce "Update" causing fluctuations
February 8th, 2015
Marcus Tober - Searchmetrics

http://blog.searchmetrics.com/us/2015/02/08/google-brand-ecommerce-update-causing-fluctuations/ [blog.searchmetrics.com]

Changes were observed particularly in keywords apparently targeting "typos" of major brand names, as well as correct uses of brand names on small and large sites. Some major gains were observed in small sites, with drops in some major sites. I haven't seen these, so can't comment. I have gotten reports from some small webmasters that they suffered big drops last week, but haven't had time to look into them further.

The Searchmetrics study suggests that mobile is not likely a factor.

Not yet clear to me is whether these were actual drops in traffic and conversions, or perhaps false alarms from WMT and Analytics glitches.

In the video, Barry shows a graph of a dramatic drop in Analytics data of February 9th, which he discussed in another SER post...
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-analytics-data-missing-19851.html [seroundtable.com]

... if you saw your traffic die on February 9th and then come back to life, you are in the same boat as probably hundreds, if not thousands of webmasters.

In fact, I checked my Google Analytics data this morning and only have 94 sessions reported on Monday, February 9th. So I am in the same boat as you as well.

He also reports that the last observed update in Webmaster Tools data was on Feb 7th...
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-webmaster-tools-data-stalled-19854.html [seroundtable.com]

As yet, there's no word on the cause of these data dropouts, and whether these might relate at all to the kinds of changes the update was dealing with, and whether there's anything to tie these together beyond coincidence in time.

Probably most helpful here would be for members with ecommerce sites to compare notes, particularly in light of the Searchmetrics analysis, and see if we can come up with further clarity.

Were the drops brand related? Were they terms targeting misspellings?

And beyond the Analytics and WMT glitches, were there any traffic losses? Other observations, including dates if possible, also would be helpful. It would helpful also to hear from members whose sites did well, and to try to confirm or deny the brand targeting theory.

Baby_Moos

11:07 am on Feb 14, 2015 (gmt 0)

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ecom UK niche.

In contrast to what you've said I've seen the drops on smaller sites & big corporations back at top taking first 6 spaces where prior to this it was 70/30 small sites/ large corps.

I agree mobile hasn't been a focus of this update, a non mobile friendly competitor has a non mobile site & still sits in front of me for 1 competitive search term, I suspect a mobile algo big update is coming soon though.

Robert Charlton

12:08 pm on Feb 14, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Small and large gains and losses are probably not as simple as size only. The Searchmetrics analysis, which had the largest set of samples, says this...

Ranking exchange for correct brand searches

For correct brand searches smaller providers gained positions, whereas some (also bigger) domains have tremendously lost. Look at the rankings for “under armour” for example: this week Dickssportinggoods is ranking on #5 and has therefore gained +96 positions., everything else has not changed. It seems like a “brand exchange”. Some of those rankings have changed meanwhile up to domains dropping completely out of the SERPs, or being pushed to the bottom.

I'm seeing reports, including on our own updates thread, going in both directions.

The SearchMetrics analysis cited misspellings as getting downranked... which I see as a parallel to the harsh treatment of slightly misspelled domains intended for deceptive use. . It's deceptive, and I can imagine Google not liking it. I can also imagine that smaller sites, rather than larger ones, would use the tactic.

OTH, I can understand why a correctly spelled brand name might do better in a small specialized niche site than in a large site... but that may depend on whether the small site is really good and the large site is mediocre.

netmeg

1:48 pm on Feb 14, 2015 (gmt 0)

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It's interesting, because my primary client, an ecommerce site, saw a noticeable gain in traffic and ranking keywords this past week. And it was sort of unexplainable, because their current site has so many technical issues it's basically eating itself (new site is being developed but won't be ready till late spring) The site has plenty of authority, but like I said, many technical issues which caused it to drop during the third quarter of 2014. Possibly this update could explain some of it.

glakes

2:11 pm on Feb 14, 2015 (gmt 0)



February 5th - 11th I saw a dramatic increase in sales originating from Google, while the total amount of Google traffic had slightly declined. Since then traffic is up to its previous level and sales have dropped to what I deem as the new norm for Google.

The site is question uses valid HTML, has no spelling errors and is mobile friendly. It has a 100% natural link profile - not one bought or self-made link. The site is not a big brand by any means, but does offer the highest quality products of its kind - I control everything from manufacturing to distribution.

Google's problem, in my opinion, is that they can't seem to (or do not want to) match buyers with my products. I do well on other search engines and even better on other platforms where people are looking to buy. That's why Google's relevance in my marketing efforts is rather limited. If Google sends sales, that great. If they don't, I'm used to it so no big deal.

Robert Charlton

10:13 pm on Feb 24, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Thought I'd kick this up and see if there's been any follow up.

I was thinking from initial reports that one of the things Google might have been going after was what an algo might interpret as knock-off sites (in the case of the misspellings), and/or sites using phrases like "Compare with WellKnownBrand" to rank for "WellKnownBrand".

I don't have enough data to make any assessments, and I haven't seen further discussion of this elsewhere. What I have seen suggests it's a possibility, but other factors cloud the picture.

netmeg - If your client was an actual brand that was having trouble for technical reasons, but which got a boost because the native brand was being rewarded, that would be a clue.

netmeg

10:34 pm on Feb 24, 2015 (gmt 0)

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It *looks* like it, but it's hard to commit to that.

rish3

1:21 am on Feb 25, 2015 (gmt 0)

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I have one ecom site that took a sales hit with this update.

It was hard to pin down what happened, as overall traffic was roughly the same.

Now that I have enough data, I looked, and it's basically this:

- Pushed down for longtails
- Pushed up for higher volume, but lower converting short queries

The two seem to net each out for overall google referred traffic, but it's now lower converting traffic.

The "pushed down for longtails" is in some cases, deserved..there are pages that are better than ours in some cases. I don't mind that so much...we'll work on those pages. Most were pushed from "top of page 1" to "bottom of page 1" or "top of page 2".

In many cases, though, there's pure garbage that pushed down good pages. One big example is someone scraping product listings from Amazon, and posting it on facebook, with shortened url links that route to Amazon affiliate pages. Thousands of scraped pages reposted to facebook...and not just my niche. These are ranking like crazy for high purchase intent long tail keywords.

I'm also seeing a return of the ebay /bhp/* pages. These seem to instantly rank for any term, even if the listed products are only *very* loosely related to the page title. I used to think bhp might have meant "black hat page". I'm now thinking it means "brands have power".

Martin Ice Web

7:52 am on Feb 25, 2015 (gmt 0)

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I can confirm what rish describes. High traffic with less conversions.
Ebays bhp pages are ranking within 1-10 in my niche. Amazon mostly takes spots 1-3.
Some searches return only very big brands for spots 1-20! (even without brand search) by searches with buying intentions. 6 out if this 20 sites are related the rest are unrelated big brands.
I recognized in my niche that in last time that whenever PLAs are displayed for a search that adsense ads are shrinking. even the ad on the top of the page (in my niche mostly covered by amazon) are not displayed. I wonder if poeple are going away from adsense ads to PLAs?
Is google killing its own ad system by the PLAs?

Ecom, germany