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7:08 pm on Jan 28, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Hi, all. Before I pull out anymore hair. Does anyone have a clue, why this site: [snip] not is indexed in GOogle? No noindex, no blocked robots.txt, no manual action, IIS without noindex and i have a big authority (govement) and have fetched for days now. Google dont care. But Bing have indexed the site?

Street-credit for the right answer :-) TNX

[edited by: brotherhood_of_LAN at 8:56 pm (utc) on Jan 28, 2015]
[edit reason] no personal links as per the terms of service, thanks! [/edit]

11:50 pm on Jan 28, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Waiting "days" is not unusual, especially when there appears to be some kind of algo/data update going on.

Assuming you have the google wmt account, and "fetch as google" looks good, you'll just have to wait.
11:27 am on Jan 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Rene, welcome to WebmasterWorld. Sorry for some initial abrupt comments you received (which have been removed). As you've probably discovered, we don't allow specifics on personal sites we discuss.

I believe I briefly saw the page at the url you posted before it was snipped and published. Didn't have time at that moment to deal with the post... and we don't give individual public site reviews in any case... but as I remember from a relatively quick glance, you didn't have any text content to speak of on your home page.

Google and Bing are similar in some ways, but they differe in others... and I've noticed that, depending on a page's backlinks and other confirming signals, Google often won't index a page with no text content. In truth, I haven't looked at Bing deeply enough to comment on that, but apparently they have indexed your page.

The main difference that I have noticed is that Bing is immensely kind to exact match and partial match domains, almost to the point of being ridiculous about it. I've seen domains which, because of weak or dupe content, receive absolutely no ranking in Google, but rank #1 in Bing on very competitive terms.

I've also felt that Google is much fussier about the quality of its inbound links, particularly with regard to relevance, whereas Bing is concerned more with the number of links. This may not apply in your situation, but it has applied in situations I've noted. And it may no longer be a fair assessment, as I haven't checked the difference that often.

When you say "noindexed" in Google, that can be a vague statement subject to many different interpretations....
- Does it rank for unique text strings on its page (difficult, if there are no text strings)?
- Does it rank for example.com (the domain name and TLD of your site)? If not, it's possibly been penalized?

- Or,does it simply not rank competitively for terms in Google you hope it will rank on? That's another situation entirely... not necessariy a penalty at all, but perhaps not good SEO, at least for Google. There are many factors to ask about.

- How old is the site? These days, ranking in Google can take time.
- How competitive are your targeted search terms?
- How long has the site been up?
- How old are the backlinks?

How were the backlinks obtained? Did you have control over their placement? Did you influence choice of anchor text? How would characterize what your inbound anchor text is like? How relevant are the linking pages? Etc....


This thread from a couple of years back, while not exactly on the subject of indexing, does discuss differences between Bing and Google enough perhaps to get some thoughts flowing. Check this thread and threads it links to...

Poor ranking in Google but fantastic on Bing
Nov, 2013
http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4624483.htm [webmasterworld.com]

Please give us a better idea of what you mean by "indexed".
12:22 pm on Jan 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Hi Robert.

It's an old site (1999), but due to a design update the site got deindexed.
I can only find subdomains when I do a site: search for the main domain.
12:35 pm on Jan 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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18 months ago I had a case of a site getting deindexed because robots.txt was returning HTTP 500. Have you checked for all techincal errors?
1:18 pm on Jan 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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There is not HTTP 500 on the robots.txt and there is no errors in Google Webmaster Tools.
7:08 pm on Jan 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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How old is this redesign ReneBP?

I have done several in the last few months and they are all struggling to gain traction, one done in August actually started moving this week for example.
7:13 pm on Jan 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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The redesign is about 3-4 months old.
9:32 pm on Jan 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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What kinds of changes did you make in the redesign?

- What content changes did you make? What about the lack of home page text that I'd noticed?
- Did you preserve original site structure? Did you add or remove pages, folders, subdomains?
- Did you change urls? Have you redirected pages? If so, what did you redirect to what?
- Looking at one of Bing's main differences with Google... is this an exact match domain? Partial match domain?
- Etc? If you made a lot of different kinds of changes all at once it's going to be more difficult to pin down what the problem was... but in any case some exemplified detail and an overview from you about what you did would help.

Also, I wouldn't rely on Google's site: search operator. Search for some unique text strings (in quotes) on your home page and in your main domain to determine whether they're indexed, filtered, etc, in Google and in Bing.