Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 54.161.241.199

Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & aakk9999 & andy langton & goodroi

Message Too Old, No Replies

Is Panda the same as Caffeine?

     
2:35 pm on Jul 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

5+ Year Member

joined:Feb 21, 2007
posts:95
votes: 0


Look at this web [worldwidewebsize.com]? Is panda the some a caffeine?

Google's index increases and the same number of keywords are distributed among more urls.
3:35 pm on July 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member tedster is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:May 26, 2000
posts:37301
votes: 0


I'm not sure what your question is asking, Errioxa. Caffeine is Google's current infrastructure. Everything they do runs on Caffeine, so that naturally includes Panda.
3:53 pm on July 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

5+ Year Member

joined:Feb 21, 2007
posts:95
votes: 0


When Google's index increases then the same number of keywords are distributed to greater number of urls, impact of this:

-Long tail traffic loss
-Big sites lose a lot
-Fewer users with 1 visit by organic traffic (organic traffic with 2 visits or more remain the same)
-All types of websites loss.
-Few sites win! (very important!)

if Panda were just another MayDay? the numbers of pages indexed by Google is greater, there are more competitors for each keyword.

[edited by: Errioxa at 4:11 pm (utc) on Jul 11, 2011]

4:05 pm on July 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member tedster is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:May 26, 2000
posts:37301
votes: 0


Now I understand - and I agree that the jump in size of Google's index probably has something to do with bigger challenges in getting rankings. However, those graphs are for the number of individual URLs, and it's simply true that Google indexes more individual URLs from a domain. I don't think that means more domains are in competition.

All that doesn't mean that the number of pages indexed has something to do with Panda. Panda is clearly quite surgical - it affects some sites dramatically and not others not at all, and the size of the site doesn't seem to be a factor. Also Panda was in development for more than a year, long before that spike in indexing.

At the same time, members here have noticed very intense crawling from googlebot, just before each major Panda version was set loose. Maybe there is some connection I'm not seeing.
4:14 pm on July 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

5+ Year Member

joined:Feb 21, 2007
posts:95
votes: 0


it affects some sites dramatically and not others


Yes, this is true...
5:07 pm on July 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

5+ Year Member

joined:Nov 26, 2009
posts:90
votes: 0


I'm not sure what your question is asking, Errioxa. Caffeine is Google's current infrastructure. Everything they do runs on Caffeine, so that naturally includes Panda.


I thought the general understanding of Panda was that it was a thing that was 'run' from time to time on their dataset, but was far too resource-heavy to possibly be included in the ongoing algorithm?

I'd love to be able to cite where I read that, but I really can't remember. Maybe, it was the world's most boring dream.
5:43 pm on July 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Preferred Member

5+ Year Member

joined:Jan 6, 2011
posts:474
votes: 1


Maybe, it was the world's most boring dream.


haha!
6:04 pm on July 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member tedster is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:May 26, 2000
posts:37301
votes: 0


almightymonkey, it's certain that something about Panda only runs from time to time. Whether that's because it's so resource-intensive, or simply not easily integrated into Google's dynamic indexing is not as clear.

If they do find it useful (and signs are they do) it will eventually end up integrated, I'm pretty sure of that.
 

Join The Conversation

Moderators and Top Contributors

Hot Threads This Week

Featured Threads

Free SEO Tools

Hire Expert Members