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Let's face it. Most sites that have recovered have fixed their problem content. Owned it and grown it.
I'm done saying what I think :)
The only bit I really dispute is that, if there has been no recovery for anyone, Google is doing it as "punishment" rather than for other, more technical reasons.That's an opinion based on what I see, neither of us have any secret video. I understand how hard is to change our beliefs, I still have not gotten over the Santa Claus thing, so I made a deal with myself: he exists, maybe not in the South Pole, but he does exist. :). I hope some here handle it better when their Santa Claus moment comes. What's saying you can come back if you reach a nearly impossible goal?
In either case, I think we may be looking in the wrong direction when we pay attention to the signal we're getting from Google - rather, perhaps we should be paying more attention to the signal we get from our users. It's hard to reverse-engineer Google. People may be easier, and in any case Google is clearly trying to reverse-engineer them too.
It is possible that the recovery reports we've had were due to other factors, not Panda-related.The only one here that's saying it's holding is Nippi, if you read everyone else AFAIK lost that 10-20% again, not that increasing 20% after losing 70% is a comeback. I try to keep the dates in mind as well, unless G is not telling, Panda runs at certain times so if you come 2 weeks after/before it run, is it Panda? Sites have always gone up and down, panda or not Panda.
At our SMX Advanced conference earlier this month, the head of Googleís spam fighting team, Matt Cutts, explained that the Panda filter isnít running all the time. Right now, itís too much computing power to be running this particular analysis of pages. Instead, Google runs the filter periodically to calculate the values it needs. Each new run so far has also coincided with changes to the filter, some big, some small, that Google hopes improves catching poor quality content. Source: [searchengineland.com...]
He suggests there are on average about five weeks between PandaRank updates.
"For anyone who was hit by Panda, itís important to understand that the changes youíve made wonít have any immediate impact."
I wouldn't assume that all site owners are trying to game Google while ignoring users
I am not not going to kill myself of "but my site must still suck," because while it's far from perfect, it certainly deserves...
I don't think it's useful to think in terms of "sucks" and "punishment" and "deserves" as though we were all recalcitrant teenagers. This is information theory, not criminal justice or child psychology (and I don't think those concepts are particularly useful in those fields either).