Is this a way for bad SEO players to suck site juice?

[honestman]

I have been seeing a lot of this source code lately done by many rogue sites.

Is this technique a way to suck site juice?

Should it be reported (and to whom) and is there a term for this framing of external site content?

[size=4]<frameset rows="45,*" frameborder="YES" border="1" framespacing="1">
 <frame src="frame1.php" name="frame1" scrolling="NO" noresize >
 <frame src="http://www.example.com" name="frame2">
</frameset>[/size]

Will this detrimentally effect the called site in the second frame--especially in Panda?

Thank you in advance.

[tedster]

As far as I know, framing another site has no negative effect on that site. There's even a small chance that it has a positive effect, something like a backlink would.

[deadsea]

Could it be a method for implementing some sort of 3rd party analytics that doesn't rely on javascript?

[honestman]

@tedster Thank you. Just wondering why 500+ low-ranking inter-related (to each other) websites are pointing at certain specific sites. Wonder if this causes flags to go up, is a form of attack, or is just a hack to be ignored.

[tedster]

I'm not aware of any attack like this - that doesn't there isn't one. It might mean someone is experimenting with something to learn more about Google. A lot of what gets done in the shadows is testing, not executing a known method.

[martinibuster]

There's a bug in Yahoo/Bing. I have seen framed sites in their SERPs. I haven't seen this in Google lately.

[honestman]

Thank you. I would rather not be specific here, but I have seen this use of the frameset for hundreds of pages with different URLs which all have the exact same meta title in the SERPS on Google.

It may well be testing... I just wanted to know if it might be a method to attack the target site's rankings.

[tedster]

There's a bug in Yahoo/Bing. I have seen framed sites in their SERPs.

Thanks for that tidbit. Now I'm thinking that the sites honestman is seeing may be generated by scraping Yahoo/Bing to get content.

[deadsea]

It never ceases to amaze me how much blackhat stuff is actually out there.

We just saw an affiliate for our competitor launch 100 sites with 1000 pages each aimed at long tail keywords. They are only serving the sites to googlebot. Everybody else gets redirected to our competitor through affiliate tracking. Somehow this strategy is being effective at ranking the long tail terms on Google.

[Dan01]

Are the ads getting displayed in the frame as well?

[jecasc]

This technique is called the "framing vampire".
Sucks your site dry. The only solution is to change your favicon to a garlic clove.

[TheMadScientist]

The only solution is to change your favicon to a garlic clove.

LAMO ... That's funny!

Frame busters all around sounds like a solution too though...

It's 'odd' to me how many people don't just install some type of frame breaker on their site(s) as a habit ... They're all over the Internet and simple to drop in, but so many sites don't bother with the 3 lines of JS it takes to break out of most frames it just makes me, uh, well, I'm not sure what, but it makes me wonder or something, because I don't get it...