How to file a complaint for many scraped pages with current DMCA form?

[leverage]

I have several sites with thousands of pages that have been hugely scraped by several Made For AdSense sites.

More than often the scraped pages of these sites outrank my own site pages for phrases that only exist on my sites and the scraping sites.

I spend hours a day writing my own content, so it is totally unfair to see several Made For AdSense sites take advantage of my work just because cannot figure that my site is the original source of content.

I have watched this video and thought that Google is finally making it easier for publishers like me to stop this abuse.

How can I make sure that Google knows my content is original?
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I did some work to figure the whole list of pages of scraping sites are made from my content so I could tell Google which pages are copied from what.

I went to the Google DMCA complaint form just to figure that Google requires that you type each scraping page URL, one at a time. If I want to report more than one URL I need to click on the "Add an additional field" link every time. This way it will take forever to feed the thousands of infringing URLs, thus making it inviable.

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Is there another way to file a DMCA complaint with Google with thousands of infringing pages that does not take forever to submit?

Maybe I am getting this wrong, but is it my impression or is Google really trying to discourage publishers to file DMCA complaints with them?

The way I see it, no Made For AdSense site just scrapes a few pages. Usually they scrape thousands, if not more, of pages from sites of publishers that have really sweat to produce the content, sometimes for years, like myself.

Could Matt Cutts not be aware that the Google DMCA complaint form in reality is too unusable to report thousands of pages?

Maybe I am missing something here, but if Matt Cutts was aware that the DMCA form made it painful to report many pages, that video would sound a bit hipocrit from him, so I suspect that he was not aware.

[tedster]

Hello leverage, and welcome to the forums.

I think your criticism is valid, and it might be good to take it directly to Google, possibly via their Webmaster Help forums. I also think Google does need to do a better job collecting scraper evidence - in the last few months getting outranked by scraped content has gone way out of line.

In the meantime, you might file DMCA complaints for a batch of the URLs that are outranking you the most. Then you could file a Reconsideration Request in Webmaster Tools. They encourage you to put a long URL list on an html page somewhere, so that the people reviewing the reconsideration requests can visit it rather than trying to submit them all through the form.

I've been successful with this approach in blocking a Google bowling problem. The long list of URLs we listed as evidence seemed to do the trick in that case.

[tangor]

Google is not the only location to file a DMCA... send one to the HOST of the infringing site that the entire domain is scraping your content. All Google will do it remove the offending pages from their index, the HOST will kill the domain (or give them time to comply). That is the better location for the DMCA...

[leverage]

tedster, thanks for the welcome, but I must clarify that I am already a regular user of the WebmasterWorld forums for many years.

I hope you can excuse me for having created a new account, but I did it because I feared retaliation from somebody of the scraping sites or even somebody at Google that may got upset with my sort of rant. Browsing my past account messages would let anybody figure which are my sites.

I just know a few pages that of my sites that I am outranked. That would be far from the list of thousands of scraped pages. I may still complain about a few pages, but that will not get me most the search traffic that I am loosing to the scraping sites.

As for the reconsideration request at WMT, are you sure you really meant reconsideration request? I suspect you meant spam report. Reconsideration requests are for sites that undo something that they did in the past violating Google Webmaster directives, which I did not.

I already did a spam report in the past for a few pages. Nothing happened, not even a single reply or a notice of if an when the report was ever processed.

Somebody hinted me that WMT spam reports at most lead Google to adjust their algorithm, not doing a real ban to the infringing sites.

Actually it gets worse, I also filled in the past a DMCA complaint with AdSense instead of Web search, and I never got a reply from Google. I even contacted AdSense support people and they told me they will not tell me what happens to "protect the privacy of the infringing site" in their own words. Actually they never told me if they ever processed the complaint.

Maybe it is just my opinion, but it seems there is something very wrong in Google logic. While plagiarism is against AdSense rules, they ignore complaints. So what are their rules for? Just to pretend they are on the side of content creators against pirates?

Personally I do not agree with what Bing did to sort of steal Google results, but there is something that the Bing guy said in that event with Matt Cutts (watch the video below) which I quite agree, is that Google is feeding content piracy by ignoring complaints against Made For AdSense sites that are based on scraped content.

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Ironically Bing does not rank the scraping sites nearly as high as Google does. Actually in Bing often I did not see pages from the scraping sites.

While Google gives those sites AdSense money, they have all the motivation to continuing scraping content, specially when Google is not able to figure who is the content original creator, outranking pirate sites, and then makes it hard for us to file a DMCA complaint of many scraped pages.

Anyway, if you were successful doing what you suggest, I wonder how did you figure you were successful? Did you get a response? At least for me, Google never replied to spam reports. Did the infringging sites/pages got removed from Google? How long did it take to get that result?

Also did you put the long list in a public page or was it some kind of password protected page? Thanks in advance for any guidance.

[leverage]

tangor I am afraid sending DMCA complaints against hosters would not work definitively as the infringing sites can keep switching hosters forever.

Now, if Google (and other major search engines) stops sending search traffic to infringing sites for pages they scraped from my sites, they will not have any more motivation to continue to scrape because they do not get traffic from anywhere else.

[tedster]

As for the reconsideration request at WMT, are you sure you really meant reconsideration request? I suspect you meant spam report.

I definitely used a reconsideration request. I took the name "reconsideration" literally. The site was being falsely penalized and I offered Google the data to prove it. I also included one small fix we had made that might have been considered a guidelines violation - even though I doubted it could have caused such a severe penalty.

I have only filed one spam report in 16 years and that was for x-rated garbage ranking for searches anyone over 10 years old might make.

I figure the request was successful because 3 weeks later all the rankings returned, and the site had been buried very deep all of a sudden, after ranking on the first page for years and for many keywords. This was before the regular acknowledgment boilerplate was sent out - so it was just send your message and cross your fingers.