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Does Content now Trump IBLs? PR5 with ZERO Inbound Links

   
6:12 pm on Feb 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I came across a small site without a single Inbound back-link in yahoo or google and it has a PR5. I changed my user agent to goolebot 2.1 to see if black hat was in play, but no difference.

The site is extremely themed, only a few pages and focuses on the history of a particular type of machine.

Has any one else seen this behavior?

This seems to me to be a game changer unless I am missing something.

I will be happy to PM moderators the site if you wish
cheers
7:34 pm on Feb 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator goodroi is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



Did you check to see if there are any 301 redirects?
9:12 pm on Feb 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I did change my user agent so the site would see googlebot, but I have no other method of seeing the .htaccess file.
9:14 pm on Feb 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator bakedjake is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



Does it rank for anything?

If not, who cares?
9:19 pm on Feb 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

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They Rank #2, #3, #4 just under their wikipedia.
Their title tag is their URL, no text
9:23 pm on Feb 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

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OMG!
I checked the wikipedia page (1 for their term)
The wiki page is a PR4
it has a NOFOLLOW link to this site!
anyone?
9:24 pm on Feb 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator bakedjake is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



It's probably a redirect from another domain or something like goodroi said.
9:38 pm on Feb 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

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but doesn't wikipedia only link to authority sites on a specific subject?
makes no sense to me

if it was doing a redirect only for googlebot, would I see it when I changed my user agent to googlebot?
9:40 pm on Feb 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator bakedjake is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



No, the other way. Another domain is redirecting to it.
9:45 pm on Feb 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

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with NO IBL's at all, I would have no way of checking that....
It's just first time i've seen such a thing and I started this in 1999 back when AltaVista was the big dog on the block :)
9:49 pm on Feb 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

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A redirect won't always show in a backlink search even though they do transfer PR. That is almost certainly what it is.

So somewhere out there are sites linking to a specific domain or a page on a domain, but the URL being linked to is redirecting to the domain you are seeing.
9:50 pm on Feb 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator bakedjake is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



IBLs -> old domain -> 301 redirect -> new domain you're asking about

Link data for the old domain will usually show up on the new domain but may not have caught up yet.
10:02 pm on Feb 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member sgt_kickaxe is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 5+ Year Member



I can buy PR5 dropped domains right now and, at least until the next toolbar update, make em look like real PR5 sites.

I can redirect and buy links to a site and, if timed luckily, get the PR to jump and then shut off the redirects and stop paying for the links.

In other words toolbar PR is a snapshot in time, not the current PR. Don't trust it.
2:54 pm on Feb 25, 2011 (gmt 0)

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thanks for the great answers folks!