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Wow - this looks like a major major screw up by Google this time (lol yet again)
It is almost as if the allinanchor, allintitle and therefore other serps have been turned off for 2-3 word searches in the sector I watch.
Worst results yet. Someone said reverted back to results/algo/scoring prior to or at the beginning of Big Daddy - this could fit in with what I am seeing.
[edited by: tedster at 2:55 pm (utc) on June 28, 2006]
I thought it was a case of putting your mouse over the cached info on the serps and the IP is shown in the bottom of the browser?
tigger - that shows the ip of the link (ie the cached page)
Excellent results, all missing pages are back etc
I am seeing the best serps I can remember in my section.
They should just leave it now, stop turning knobs and all take a 6 week holiday. Matt can then come back and man the front desk and phone.
No more tweaks - please!
Lol - spoken as one who is alright jack.
There is a huge mess in the index at the moment that Google still need to sort out.
I will be amazed if there are not further tweaks in the next few days.
They are like white hat heaven, almost too good to be true for us.
I have a secondary site that is on a Window$ server, for historical messing about with .asp reasons. I've not managed to persuade the host to sort out a redirect for me and don't know enough about these servers to do it for myself and as a result www and non-www point to the same pages and I think that the site has suffered from a penalty, but it does OK on other search engines and I've just more or less forgot about it. The best I've seen it listed previously is at #61 for the same term it is @ #13 on the DCs you mention.
Sid
[edited by: Hissingsid at 10:53 am (utc) on June 29, 2006]
64.233.189.107
and 72.14.235.107
And even these data centres are not as good as the results were prior to BD being introduced -
Since the new infastructure went live ive found google to be a real pain in the ar@e with its constant everflux and irrelevent results showing all the time.
Those two have my "www non-www dupe indicator site" at #65
Wouldn't it be nice if they could allow you to use both www and no-www without a permanent redirect and not penalise you for a standard server set-up.
Sid
72.14.207.99
72.14.207.104
72.14.207.107
and the cache date is fresh too. Hope it stays that way
I have been extremely happy with most of the latest search results from a searching perspective.
I just have to remember to skip the first page.
Everything on the first page of all of the google results appears to me to be the same old tired BS they have been serving up since they broke their algo. "Google has fallen and it can't get up."
Beyond that, on page two and further down, there are now more and more real, useful results.
I propose that there is now a third major ranking metric.
We have PageRank which we understand somewhat.
We have TrustRank which is fairly clear.
This third metric is a result of the engineers at Google watching to much "Reality TV."
I believe that we are seeing the impact of what I term:
"RealityRank"
It appears that if pages are "REAL" and have real, meaningful, useful content and are not "autogeneratedspamgarbagebs" then they are assigned a negative "RealityRank" and are not allowed to appear any higher in the SERPs than number eleven.
Perhaps they need a new button on the home page similar to the "Feeling Lucky" button. Click here to skip first ten results ("nothing there to see anyway.")
"Get real Google."
Earlier someone asked how do you get IP of DC.
I'm on Mac OSX.
If I ping www.google.co.uk using Network Utility it reports 216.239.59.99
When I go to www.google.co.uk using Firefox with no cookies allowed. The Firefox extension "ShowIP" says the IP is 216.239.59.99 and when I mouse over the cache it says 216.239.59.104.
The Firefox extension is the "easiest" way to be sure what the IP is each time you go to Google and you can cut away from Micro$oft at the same time.
Sid
Someone tell me this is a temporary blip please.
.. and here I thought it was what you did with what you had rather than size?
Maybe we should call it the p-rank. Or, maybe just rank.
Every day something new is introduced half-baked to the results set. some DC's are great from results 20+. Others are garbage from the get go. On some old domains outrank quality sites, yet others half the sites are supp.
My take is the biggest and most important thing to di to put our heads down to the grindstone and work on our sites and ignore this obviously problem riddled search engine for the next month. When it's time to look up, we can only hope some of these issues have been fixed.
Good luck guys...
These results are very different, just wondering as I am n01 on the comcast search, no4 google.com and no6 on google.co.uk for a uk hosted site.
Our site seems to be fairing fairly well, but the results that I see are truly awful, stuff like 32 domains interlinked, all the same company (plus same host ) flying up the rankings.
All sites but one, are non readable, no stop words, just lists and list of keywords, in paragraph form, one after another, paragraph after paragraph of it.
Not only will Sergey and Larry be getting a visit from the future like in Terminator for creating a monster, but now, they will be after them for creating the 1990's spam knob that is being played in this niche.
view the comcast results via comcast dot net site's search?
I wonder what "enhanced by Google" means.
Did anyone ever ascertain what IP address at Google holds those same results?
If you use the command line to ping Google, you will get the IP address at that moment, but it can change in an instant when you do the next search, although it is usually stable for a period of time and a relatively safe approach.
If certainty on the IP address of any page is important, you can use a Firefox extension called "ShowIP" that displays the IP address (or addresses!) for the currently displayed page. The IP information is coming directly from the browser in present time and is displayed in a small extra window on the status bar.
Using that Firefox ShowIP extension, I see that my current Google search results page (going to www.google.com) is actually being pieced together from these three IP addresses:
64.233.161.104
64.233.161.147
64.233.161.99
However, the cache pages are coming from a fourth, different IP address.
If I enter any one of these three above IP addresses directly into the address bar, I get search results from that single IP only, rather than a page pieced together from all three. All the cache links stay on that IP address.
There is another difference as well -- the "google.com" page has the basic Google logo. But the direct IP address page has the gray text "English" at the bottom right of the logo.
Very informative observations!
And thanks for tip. That Firefox ShowIP extension is very helpful tool for Google Datacenters Watchers, indeed. Now we can see from where those serps are coming. For example my google.com at the moment is 66.249.93.99 and 66.249.93.104 ;-)
29.06
09.30 - 66.102.9.147 - keyword1 #6 - keyword2 #4
13.20 - 66.102.9.99 - keyword1 #6 - keyword2 #4
14.00 - 216.239.59.99 - keyword1 #6 - keyword2 #4
30.06
08.00 - 216.239.59.99 - keyword1 #6 - keyword2 #7
i forgot to check the keywords last night but a different search i did then has just returned the same results this morning.
please please please please...
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I'm getting close to exactly the same results on Google now as I'm getting on Comcast, which makes for the best results in a long, long time... except for the sites lost in the past couple days.
I would also have to agree that these are the best results I have ever seen on Google. I'm not only where I should be but so are my competitors! :> (Okay, that is indeed selfish)
[edited by: MLHmptn at 8:29 am (utc) on June 30, 2006]
Watching the datacenters makes no sense now since none of the results, copra or other, are being used on google.com.
Two explainations maybe. Some people are so datacenter obsessed they don't pay attention to the actual results. Or [adjust tin hat] there is some sort of personalization or random assignment of a different set of results that is being served to some of us but not everybody. I asked a few people and they see the same results for a query that I do, but maybe I need to ask more.
I really don't get some of the posts being made here... or for that matter why Google has completely different reults on its datacenters (the mcnameless ones anyway) than what is being served to the public.
Google is obviously applying some kind of a filter before it is displayed on the www.google.com UI. How else can you explain it? The DC's are now 99% in sync and none of the SERP's accessed directly through www.google.com show what is on the DC's when accessed by IP.
Of course they look similar but they are not the same. As you know...Copra variant or something. But damn, what beautiful SERP's!
i ping from command prompt which displays the google ip from my own machine. depending on location, etc everyone will get different results but my point is if mine are settling maybe others are.
(i tried the FF extension but as it doesnt appear to ping from my machine and returns a different IP for the data centre)
