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Url Removal of supplementals on different DC's

and is there any effect on placement in the SERPS

         

suzie250

4:58 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Last week I requested the removal of a subdomain that has not existed for almost a year. The cache date showing in the index was from May of 2005.

The whole site was supplemental (including the subdomain) due to duplicate content (meta description tags were all the same). After 9 months of working on it, only three pages have come out.

The url removal request of the subdomain included removing anything related and the subdomain was removed from my default DC.

At the same time, all supplementals from the main domain were also removed from my default DC. At one time there was a link from some of the main domain pages to the subdomain but not all of them. Many of these supplementals were being crawled reguarly but the cache's were never updated (many of these were from Aug 05)

Coincendence? or were all the supplementals related somehow?

None of the pages have been removed from other DC's as of this morning. I had assumed that removal from all DC's was done once I received the email saying the removal was complete but I guess I assumed wrong. Evidently that email only means the process has started.

One a side note, yesterday I was getting different results depending on which browser I was using. IE would show all the pages and Mozilla and Firefox would only show the three good pages on my default DC.
This morning I only see the three pages no matter what browser I use.

Something else I have been wondering....I'm not one that cares much about PR but I have wondered how much, if any, effect all these supplementals have on the sites PR and the placement of the site in the SERPS.

speda1

6:12 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I see that a lot of my pages that where 'supplemental' are now not indexed at all.

Google cleaning house?

g1smd

6:38 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Check which datacentre you are looking at (get the IP by running your mouse over the "cache" link) and always make a note of it.

Some datacentres have results that are very different to the rest. Google has three versions of its index in play at the moment.

F_Rose

6:56 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Please reply with three IP addresses that have different versions. I knew that thier are only two versions. One perfectly clean, the other a total mess.

g1smd

11:38 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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There are two "similar" versions (but I see distinct differences in the various searches that I do), and then there is the "experimental" set that has been at [72.14.207.99...] with massively inflated results (search that should have 20 results had 46000 last week, and 900 this week - all not quite relevant) and which has spread to other datacentres in the last 24 hours or so, including I think, [64.233.167.99...] where results have just changed again to drop all the supplemental results from view (only temporary I expect).

texasville

12:07 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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[64.233.167.99...] ...yuck..that particular dc has really whacked my main site. Down to 5 pages. Google doesn't even index my contact page. Geez...I feel like they just want me to go away.

annej

12:56 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Interesting, the two data centers you noted show my biggest site at number 3 on my top keyword but both show the title as the DMOZ title. I notice all datacenters doing this are also ranking the wikipedia page on the keyword in the top 10.

On the data centers that still show my page title as the title are showing me as #4 and the wiki link is way down.

I'm not seeing supplemental scrapers either.

g1smd

1:16 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Check what you get for "quoted searches". On some DCs you do NOT get an "exact match" search now: the SERPs bring a massive increase in the number of results, but most are NOT relevant to what you were actually looking for...