Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
In other BD indexes (like [66.249.93.104...] etc) I now see that some old Supplemental Results for pages and sites that no longer exist are disappearing from the search results.
I have waited years for this moment. We already had several false starts on this over the last few months. The pages were dropped, and then reappeared a day or two later.
Be gone for good this time!
[edited by: tedster at 5:27 am (utc) on Mar. 28, 2006]
[edit reason] split thread to create a new one [/edit]
I thought your site was fixed.
However, on that DC your homepage has gone on a phrase search for it.
"Reseller
I thought your site was fixed.
However, on that DC your homepage has gone on a phrase search for it."
Exactly. And I find it very strange, because this is the first time I see that since last year, if I recall correctly.
Oh..well (:(
site:domain.com - got 761 results, which is up from what it has been.
Got as far as 448 results before I got the "omitted results" prompt.
site:www.domain.com - Gave the exact same results
site:domain.com -inurl:www gave zero results, which is much better as it has been showing several hundred results, both a mix of true sups and other pages that are current and should not be sup.
I am far from an expert and not sure what all this means in the scheme of things, but thought I would share the changes that I saw.
For years, the search returns that one result and at least 20 supplemental results (for pages and sites that no longer exist). There are two slightly different versions of the supplemental list depending on which datacentre you use.
On the new 72.14.207.99 datacentre, the same search now returns 1 to 12 of about 40 000, and most of the 12 results are pages that I have not seen being returned for this query before, and are very "fuzzy" matches (the 64.233.185.104 DC had a similar results set the other day). Most of those 12 results are for supplemental pages that Google has known about for more than a year, but which never show up in results, and which all now have a cache date less than 2 weeks old.
The kicker is that when you click the "Repeat search with omitted results included" link, you then get ONE result (shown as "1 to 1 of about 15").
Now that is odd, but it does show that Google is capable of recognising what junk really needs to be thrown away. Hopefully an engineer can isolate that filter and deploy it on other datacentres...
Hi Folks
I wish to point out 3 sets of DCs which I consider unfriendly to my site. My suggestion to the friends at GooglePlex is to burn those unfriendly DCs..just like that :-)
216.239.53.*** Show Canonical Problem within my site
216.239.57.*** Show Canonical Problem within my site
64.233.187.*** Keep showing DMOZ Title for my homepage
What about you? any unfriendly DCs of your site you wish to share, mentioning the reason?
Thanks.
A guy can dream...
Good morning Folks
I have nemtioned in my previous post msg#:66 of this thread, 2 DCs which were showing canonical problem within my site.
216.239.53.***
216.239.57.***
It seems that the friends at Google Crawl-Indexing Team had read my post and corrected the canonical problem of my site on those two DCs while I was in bed ;-)
And for that..allow me to start this wonderful morning with my famous song...
Oh Google.. You Are Simply The Best, Better Than All The Rest :-)
You would have thought even by accident Google might get one of them right.
But nope - total and utter mess.
Hmmz - I think I will do a check for my site again on a "www.domain.com" phrase check:-
Spam spam spam spam spam spam spam - oh there is an internal page in position 750.
Still no improvements.
Maybe you should start a new campaign just like that of last year :-)
Listen Google - I will say this only another 100 times. The canonical url for my site is the homepage with the www - I have done the 301 - this is the page with the most backlinks - it is the page that should rank for the company name search. Etc."
I would probably have to start at number 1000000000000000000000000000000000 and count down to give Google any chance :)
Hi Folks
Relax..fetch your Danish brand cappuccino and study your site(s) on today's DC set. Isn't she lovely ;-)
[64.233.185.99...]
[64.233.185.104...]
Enjoy!
The only place I can see this on is 64.233.187.104.
On 72.14.207.99 with &filter=0 I see them get it completely right for the very first time in over two years.
Yes, supplemental issues are much much better for the sites you monitor - I agree.
But Google has not been able to correctly determine root pages for lots of sites that went missing yet.
On that DC there are no ranking changes - just perhaps a knob that has turned the supplemental index off on some searches.
Whether the forthcoming PR update will cure this is anyones guess.
On one hand I think that as PR is supposed to be continually applied to the serps I cant see that making a difference.
On the other hand the exported PR might still have some impact on how the structure of a site (eg site:domain.com - domain.com is first, and in allinurls etc) is calculated.
I just wish they would get on with it.
Currently my site is out of canonical issue and supplementals but seems to have some issues like some of the old pages still showing in index which are not existing (404) and ranking for my domainname which is still on 5th page. I think if Google rectifies this problem then I think site will rank better.
64.233.179.104
64.233.179.107
These datacenters show different serps than all other datacenters on the mcdar tool.
even other serps than
64.233.187.104
I have said this before, I say it again:
What I have been noticing is far too much weight being given to .co.uk and .ca URL's in the USA serps.
So a common search would produce:
keyword.com (A valuable site to USA searchers)
keyword.co.uk (Of no value in the USA)
keyword.ca (Of no value in the USA)
I would expect this on google.co.uk and google.ca, but not on Google.com.
It is making a mess of the serps with valuable sites that were in the top five results dropping down or off the page.
64.233.179.99
64.233.179.104
64.233.179.107
-caches are now consistant
-no supps
-173k of pages up from 102k yesterday and still caching.
-99% of our site are new pages and receiving redirects from old pages.
Still early days, but at least things are happening consistantly now.
our results in the serps are still "tragic" [ again e.g for 1 keyword result we are No 90 for a previously stable No 1 result ] and for unique page content we are way down the serps.
just repeating - we have compounded problems with a previous robots.txt hack attack that knocked us out for 180 days
One thing - we have another bunch of sites that are not yet fully compliant [ weighty pages , too many links etc ] and these are not performing well in this update. It might be interesting to compare sites on your network that have been cleared up versus sites that need a bit of work [ please be kind to us Google - if you're reading this :) we were waiting to see how our tidied up sites performed first - before migrating the changes over ]
Hi Folks
It seems that our good friend at GooglePlex Matt "Inigo" Cutts is leaving Google Search Quality Team and moving to a new Google office at NASA!
Here is what the Danish newspaper "Copenhagen Corner" wrote yesterday 31st March 2006:
Google-NASA partnership
As part of Google's plan to build up 1 million square feet of offices at NASA Ames Research Center near Mountain View, Calif., the two entities will cooperate on research projects such as large-scale data management, nanotechnology, massively distributed computing and the entrepreneurial space industry.
Google Chief Executive Eric Schmidt has announced that Google-NASA office shall be headed by senior engineer Matt Cutts.
We wish Inigo good luck and God bless. So long Matt and thank you for friendship and support to the webmaster communities for many years.
Talking about odd behaviour. This set of DCs show different serps than the rest DCs for my test keyphrases related to online marketing & advertising.
[64.233.171.99...]
[64.233.171.104...]
[64.233.171.107...]
[64.233.171.147...]
Thoughts?
Matt Cutts Moves to Google NASA Office
Reseller, I liked it. But my favorite is newly released Google Romance, the contextual dating sevice!
[google.com...]
[google.com...]
64.233.187.99
64.233.187.104
How old are those sites - The only site I launched after November time has suddenly lost rankings accross the DC.
