Pagerank queries - the <rk> parameter

What do such figures as Rank_1:1:6 Rank_1:1:5 mean?

[selomelo]

We already know that toolbar PR is in fact an historical figure. When you query google for current PR, you get some mysterious figures such as:

Rank_1:1:6 Rank_1:1:5 Rank_1:1:4 Rank_1:1:4 Rank_1:1:5 Rank_1:1:6 Rank_1:1:5 Rank_1:1:0 Rank_1:1:1 Rank_1:1:5 Rank_1:1:2 Rank_1:1:3 Rank_1:1:0 Rank_1:1:0 Rank_1:1:3

These figures are for a site that has a current toolbar of PR4.

I searched the web for an explanation, but failed to get a good one.

Is there any idea as to what all these magical numbers mean?

[thewindmaster]

If no one else has noticed you can get the same Rank type page for your current PageRank from iwebtools like this:

[google.com...]

you can parse out the &features=Rank also to get the full XML file:

[google.com...]

I checked all 7 of my site and all current page ranks match the <RK> tag in the XML file.

Further proof that <RK> really is Future/Effective Page Rank?

The only difference is the CH value. Did we every determine what that was?

[edited by: jatar_k at 9:32 pm (utc) on Feb. 17, 2006]
[edit reason] removed specifics [/edit]

[baron13]

Hi,
just one question: What is going on/wrong when I receive "Pagerank unknown" from the iweb tool?

[300m]

Ok, I have tried to read through this the best I can. I am not nearly as gifted as many of you that have posted, but at a glance I managed to figure out how to look at the BD xml and compare it to a non BD ip. I would like clarification, guidance, or anything else that can clear this one small point up for me.

Here goes:
<R N="2" L="2" is really something that is baffling me.

On the non bd ip i see this
<U>http://www.example.com/subpage.html</U>
Looks like a winner to me. However, I get a completley different result when looking at BD.

<U>http://www.example.com/pagenevercreated.html</U>
This page does not, and has not ever existed on the domain. So why is it there?

To further add to the confusion the "RK" for the non bd is showing the correct PR for the page that has been there the whole time which has been a 5 for about a year, yet the non bd "RK" is giving this page that does not and has not ever existed a of 3.

Why?

I am really hoping someone knows what I am saying because i am trying to understand what the differences are here and compare them to bd and non bd dc's.

*edit It makes me wornder if i should create the page that BD seems to think exists and see what happens in the serps.

[300m]

Sorry for the extra post, but to further this along, am i correct to assume that R N="1" L="1 all the way to R N="10" L="10 in some fashion calculate the PR? Even if it is a rough calculation, having a dead link showing up R N="1-10" L="1-10 could disrupt the way a web pages is calculated? Maybe even affect serps? The serps may be a stretch, but surely it would have to affect predicted, rough future PR?

also what about the discrepancy between the “RK” on the BD and non BD ip’s? If a BD ip address is giving a dead link an RK of 3 and non BD is giving it an RK of 5 would that not also indicate a slight “devaluation” overall?

[Hanu]

thewindmaster,

The only difference is the CH value. Did we every determine what that was?

300m,

am i correct to assume that R N="1" L="1 all the way to R N="10" L="10 in some fashion calculate the PR?

I suggest you read the entire thread again. Some of your question have already been answered.

[Hanu]

afterburner,

That looks like the formula google usually uses, the index page is almost always 1 point higher than the internal pages on the same domain. Right?

Yeah, sort of. The formula is not that simple but usually leads to the effect you observed.

[300m]

Hanu, thanks. I have done so, but I still would like to know why i have a bd data center showing me a subpage on the domain that I am looking up that has never existed. I have read this a couple of times and I guess I am either thick in the head or stuck on that particualr thing for some reason.:P Maybe you can point me to the post that has that info?

[Hanu]

I didn't say all of your question were already covered, I said some of them were. I doubt anyone can help you with the "page that never existed" problem without having access to the specifics. I have the feeling that G does not "invent" a URL out of the blue. It might be a bug in BD in which case I wouldn't spend any time on this issue. Have you tried looking at the cached copy of that page on the BD DC, i.e. "cache:http://domain.com/pagethatneverexisted.html"?

[300m]

yes i did, i think i know what it is. The site was purcased back in 1999 and bd did not have a cache, but someone else did , low and behold there are 160 links on big daddy that page. More than likely the previous owner had that page. I went ahead and made the page yesterday, can't hurt to see what happens. Thanks again.

After posting the above, I did a bd search using the site operator for that page. It was not listed yesterday, however, it is this morning? Not only was the tbpr not the same, it was actually higher than the rk3. In fact it was twice that. It has a tbpr of 6. I think that the pr6 is from my home page in some weird way personally.

[dmje]

I have noticed in the XML generated using the tool that was posted previously along with the site:domain.com command there is a tag that reads
<M>240</M> which corresponds to the number of pages G shows.

Just thought I would let everyone know what that tag means.

Also, the number of pages that G shows on BD for our sites has gone down dramatically, and I know this has been discussed before, but what is everyones take on this, do you think they will go up once everything is settled down?