Google acts funny. :)

Questions about beeing listed in Google

[ZuluZ]

First of all i´d like to say that i´m new to both this forum and runnin a site in generall so please be gentle when answering. :)

I launched a site 3 month ago and got listed in Yahoo, MSN and Altavista just a week after or so. If I searched on the companyname i got listed at around 5th place on all of them. But... no sign at all at Google.

I got a few other sites with links to mine. Been trying for ages with different validation services to get the site as clean as possible, but no results in google. When i check the logs googlebot visits me every hour or so! Since the launch in november i´ve had over thousands of hits from googlebot. 2 times just when i´ve been working with trying to get in to google i´ve seen myself listed at google! Ranked at 5th place there too, but then an hour later or soo... gone... :) But still good ranking on all the other SE´s.

For information my site has frames, and i´ve got a index,nofollow tag so that the frames shouldn´t get indexed alone and so on. A meta keyword description containing 28 words.

I´ve tried to remove the keywords for a while and let googlebot hit my site a few times without any results.

Anyone with some good ideas. :) I might have to followup with some more specific descriptions about the setup of my site but i´d really appreciate some help with this.

[jfodale]

Just keep adding content and go about business normally. It typically takes around 6 months for a new site to get listed in google. Don't lose sleep over it, there are thousands in the same boat as you, myself included.

[ZuluZ]

Ah ok... followed a few threads and read the whole thing about the "sandbox". Well... nothing to do then I guess. :)

Anyways... i found now after looking through a few threads that i get listed when entering google at this ip: [64.233.179.99...] . But not when just typing www.google.com ... Strange... does that say that i´m not in the sandbox or why is it like that?

[Wizard]

It's nothing to do with sandbox. It's a problem with frames.

What do you see if you search Google for "site:www.yoursite.com"? My guess is you've got a chance to see main page only.

If you put meta 'noindex' for all frames, perhaps you expect Google to index your framesets, and get the content from 'noframes' tag, don't you? Indeed, Google indexes the content from 'noframes' tag and treats it as a content for the URL of the frameset file.

The problem is, that Google does not follow any links in 'noframes' tag!.

If someone has an example that it does, I'm interested to see it. I run a big site which uses frames and blocks frames from Googlebot, so in SERPs there are only framesets, so visitors always get whole page, not one frame. But to make Googlebot follow links in 'noframes' content, I had to hide all 'frameset' and 'noframes' tags with javascript. It was a bit sophisticated and is on the edge of Google webmaster guidelines, but it works so far.

So my guess is, that there are no Googlebot followable links in your framed site, and that's why you cant get listed. But I have to know what do you see when you use site: command to be sure I'm right.