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3 days ago 4 of my sites were banned from the google index. The only affiliation they had => "same adsense-code". No interlinking, nothing!
Just to inform you: so it is true, that there are several bans for adsense-spamming. Not only the cancelation of the account, they can also put the button and throw out all your earning-sites!
I dont want to say, that i was spamming. No!
I just set up an directory-site with around 1000 pages in different topics. It was a very quality index, with hand-chosed sites. But the small snippets have been taken from the site. So the term "Made for adsense" or "Scraper" could have been used for this!
Its for sure a ban. PR-bar ist white, no sites anymore in the index, robots.txt ist okay!
Hours before the ban, the earnings rised around 30%.
Greetings!
I have even heard it is mostly wise to remove google ads from link-out only pages anyway as they provide no userful content and dilute existing pages with real content.
Sorry to hear about the ban
The only affiliation they had => "same adsense-code". No interlinking, nothing!
Site structure/content/lack of original content is enough. For instance, suppose they are after 1000 page directory sites that contain snippets from the sites they list? If all your sites fit that profile, then they would all get hit. Would have nothing to do with AdSense.
Tahiti
2 of them had the same structure, 1 was different.
But another site, which had the same structure, but no adsense code, was not banned!
Even a parking site, which was including adsense relevant content from the banned site using iframe, was banned, too. It was also a very common keyword-domain. But other domains are still alive, but they are not attracting the same visitors.
So, only my top adsense site have been banned by google-search! ;)
So this was definitely not a result from automatic algo, it was human reviewed, banned out of google, because the AdSense ppl did it!
Even if they don't like directorie pages, why the AdSense ppl are banning? Why they are not writing you an email, that your site is not meeting the quality guidlines google has, as google search is doing it in an beta-test, or serving you no ads?
Only if you're having illegal click activity, they are writing an email. But if they don't like the site, they ban it!
If they would write an email to an webmaster, telling him that the site is not meeting the quality guidlines by google, every webmaste would remove the code directly or optimizing the page!
Thats it!
Yes, adsense is still working!
But who cares, if no visitors are on the site? ;)
I agree, if the adsense ppl have problmes with the site (different opinions). But i dont see any reason, why they are not writing an automatic email, like they do it in the beta-test as Matt described with the google search.
Banning you out of the index, taking some other adsense sites from you, too, is not that motivating! ;)
(Sorry if I sound harsh, but...)
Freq---
Some webmasters are asking the same questions all the time. I red and agreed to the guidelines!
But i haven't red anything about directory sites!
If i would know, i wouldn't put adsense code on this site!
Even if i am deeplinking to promote and seo my pages, i think this is legtimate! I want to be found and want to earn money, that's the reason why all of us are here, and thats the reason why i am putting adsense code on my site, and thats the reason why google is offering such a service (they want to earn money, too). ;-)
Acutally, i haven't found anything about directory sites! So it is legitimate to warn the user!
But okay, i am thankful that the account isn't cannceled!
But writing an warning, which is more complicated for the google search-team and they are beta-testing it... The adsense ppl have all informtion they need, to warn you! So it's easy!
This is more a god scenrario! ;) It is a good warning, to cut me off of everything! I have learned my lesson, for sure! No panic!
Has anybody ever set up a site that gave out differnt channels for differnt SE's. That would be interesting if google traffic is part of the smart pricing algo.
This is not against the TOS for those who still think that your not allowed to use includes with adsense code.
Also the person was banned in the SERPS not adsense. They did not ban you for having adsense they just found one site and used the adsense to find others. Google would have to be stupid to ignore adsense as a way of finding sites they don't like.
Google and many others are sick of directories. They can't make an algo because they would ban many sites they don't want to. The only difference between a dir they like and one they don't is the ones they like get more traffic.
[edited by: ogletree at 11:47 pm (utc) on Jan. 10, 2006]
i know, what is okay, and what is not okay with google. and something (such as directories, etc) i dont know, and nobody knows exactly, so i try.
i just want to inform other ppl, that it could be a problem. it is not necassary, that other ppl make the same experiences like me! ;-) but at the end, everyone needs to make his own experiences! ;)
i am not whining... i go ahead and make it more qulity... just these 2 keyword domains... tz tz... i loved them, really!
thats the way: google is okay! just a little more communication would be good! ;)
Sorry for the misunderstanding. The "Adsense ban-" part of your title threw me off. I assumed you were booted as well as banned.
At any rate, I see you understand that your sites that got banned would likely be classified as MFA and aren't exactly up to the guidelines, so you know how to procede.
Glad to hear you still have your account.
Keep in mind though that you are likely still on the watch list so any new sites that you run your code on should be as compiant as possible.
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Looks like a very popular way to fill the net full of spam pages. This is getting to be too much. I would like to see google drop the whole adsense thing as in the end it is Google that is causing all of this spam.
I don't mind them doing the pay per click thing to get income but now every Tom Dick and Harry site is building JUNK pages like this and in turn Google has become the BIGGEST spam producer of them all.
Google should toss all the junk directories out of the index.
People who build them should be put under house arrest and forced to write on a blackboard, " I will not build junk directories" a zillion times.
That would probably equal all the stupid spam emails people get telling us how you should link to this particular site because now you have a link coming to you from some junk directory you have never heard of ;)
But they are big enough to sell their own PPC.
I just set up an directory-site with around 1000 pages in different topics. It was a very quality index, with hand-chosed sites.
Having spent years setting up a directory with half that many pages I think I can assume you must have a very large staff to hand chose 1000 pages.
Having spent years setting up a directory with half that many pages I think I can assume you must have a very large staff to hand chose 1000 pages.
Yes, i have a large stuff!
And "years" for 1000 sites is a very long-time! Wow! Your directory-site seems to be a real premium site... hopefully google is not banning you! ;-)
Back to the topic:
There are directory sites, that are really useful, espcially if they are specialised on a subject, like technical, blogs, xml, programming or whatever! I dont see any reason, why they shouldn't exist.
And i must say, 3 years ago spam was more "angry" as today. I remember those stupid popups, and the keyword-loaded pages. Bahh. It's peaceful now!
To be in the TOP is harder then ever! And the "normal spammer" has no chance, to get a TOP PLACE.
Spam is spam... and if adsense would not exist, we would habe more "angry" spam! If someone has a problem with a MFA site, he can report it to google!
So what? It's a nice service from google.
I don't see much spam on google!
The index is clean!
