Why sites are banned?

Good site are not seen, but it is easy to see spam site.

[jink]

Hi,
One more question I wish to know. when ever we search for a keyword on google we see many result and on the first search page we see many spam site. Does SE have a taste for spam and not ethical site. I wish to know why does good ethical site get penalized and banned and why not Spam site.Is there a way to get a good site up if it is penilized by SE and how?

Any suggestion are welcome. Thanks.

[texasville]

Happens all the time. You just need more and better quality inbound links to get above the others. Simple as that. Google doesn't really recognize spam imo.
And when it is reported to them, it generally is ignored. When it is banned- it comes back unchanged after a short time.
I even got googleguy to personally ban one once and it was only about 5 weeks ago. Saw it back in the serps yesterday. Unchanged.

[theBear]

Maybe Google got the test wrong instead of

if ($site_spam eq "y")
 {
 &remove_site_from_frist_100_results($current_site);
 }

they coded thusly

if ($site_spam ne "y")
 {
 &remove_site_from_frist_100_results($current_site);
 }

Or they initalised $site_spam with y, coded the test properly but didn't always turn the $site_spam flag off and .... well you get the idea.

Or maybe those spam sites aren't and it is your definition of spam that is wrong.

Plenty of possibilities.

[europeforvisitors]

&remove_site_from_frist_100_results

Hey, we aren't supposed to talk politics here. :-)

[rfontaine]

It's because spammers create sites by the tens and hundreds while legit companies usually only have one or maybe a few websites. Add to that, the spammers copy the content of many sites using bots and even "improve" them SEO-wise.

The unwashed hordes are overrunning the battlefield by sheer weight of numbers.

[theBear]

s/frist/first/g

It all winds up as addresses and contents of addresses anyhow ;).

Politics what's that? Oh now I remember them there idiots that talk out of both sides of their mouths at once.

[Stefan]

I wish to know why does good ethical site get penalized and banned and why not Spam site

There is a difference between "penalized and banned", and simply not doing well in the serps. Generally (and some might disagree), good, ethical sites are not banned - they might be outcompeted in the serps, but they aren't kicked out of the listings. On the other hand, spam sites are indeed "penalized and banned" at times. They don't care, because they create many sites on an ongoing basis, dump the ones that disappear from the serps, and generally approach webmastering on a "dash and grab" basis. Apparently, this works well enough to keep them in business. But, an ethical site will regard their URL as equivalent to their reputation, will avoid dodgy methods, will eventually rise to the top (this done by adding valuable content and not trying to cheat), and will not be "banned" at any time in its existence.

To get back to the question quoted above: if your site has been banned, there is probably a reason (linking, or cloaking, or something dodgy). If you're just not doing well in the serps, check for 302/php hijacking etc, add content, get links, and keep working on the site.

[europeforvisitors]

Politics what's that? Oh now I remember them there idiots that talk out of both sides of their mouths at once.

You mean you weren't talking about Bill Frist, the U.S. Senate Majority Leader? Go back and proofread your code. :-)

[ownerrim]

Are you kidding, EFV? Who in these parts has ever heard of Majority Leader Frist, aka Dr. Frist.

[theBear]

Hey EFV,

The code would work just because I hit two key in reverse order and did a c&p to provide the second block of code you are causing me trouble ;).

I was going to send you a sticky but your mail box was full yesterday or at least that is what the sticky mail system said.

All one has to do is be consistent what we call a routine becomes an address.

The spammers are not always the ones placing for a set of serps. I'll now let the forum figure that remark out.

[topsites]

Sometimes, I think the best thing to do is go under for 6-12 months... Not so much on purpose, but if it's happening, don't try and fight it but so much, keep working on the site and improve it yes, but hey, give it a rest, I'm about 1/3'rd of where I was 1-2 years ago and I've tried everything...

It just appears to me right now it's more money than ever... Content competes but if they got deep pockets, those of us rely on natural rankings have to wait for eventual depletion.

Natural selection shall happen, perhaps not today or tomorrow :)

[jink]

Hey, we started this as a spam topic and we ended with no proper result.

Again How does spam filter work and does all SE have different filter or work on the same parameter.

[Essex_boy]

They are all going to look at spam diffrently - they are after all diffrent firms.

[soapystar]

Frist? isnt that what you get from security guards at German airports?

[jetteroheller]

if ($site_spam eq "y")
{
&remove_site_from_frist_100_results($current_site);
}

they coded thusly

if ($site_spam ne "y")
{
&remove_site_from_frist_100_results($current_site);
}

That reminds me on 5 terrible hours.
I had a client with a sex web site.
Normal, I combined all my clients in one local search engine, but I did not want this at the sex web site.

So I put in the indexing routine

If ( index ( $domain_name, "sex" ) >= 0 ) { last }

But as I checked the result, I discovered that I have done something wrong. The search index of the local search engine contained only the sex web site.

And as I started to delete the search index, the internet connetion crashed for several hours...