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Update Saga. Part 5

         

Brett_Tabke

8:26 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

frup

4:53 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Jagger3 is still on the 4 DCs. Please check again Reseller.

colin_h

4:57 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



Hi Texasville,

Many thanks for your input. In my case things seem to have worked out with keywords. I think that I got sandboxed with our main site as we completely renewed the entire site at the wrong time and got treated as a new build. But the case of being totally banned has now been solved (touch wood) by totally removing all meta details except our titles and copyright, which are individual to their pages. Over 3/4 of our pages have been reinstated and the big hitters still hold their pre jagger position.

I'm still holding my breath with the oldest site, but the content is totally different now (mainly self taken images and historic info) and so will probably take the full 9 months to come back. However, Yahoo & Ask have picked it up almost immediately and rank it quite competitively.

Once again many thanks

Colin

reseller

4:58 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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frup

>>Jagger3 is still on the 4 DCs. Please check again Reseller.<<

I know.. but Jagger3 could be as well dead and buried in those 4 DCs. Its going nowhere. Whats the difference ;-)

frup

5:02 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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As far as I can tell they are still adjusting it on the 4 DCs. Rankings are still changing there. Just because it is taking time to migrate doesn't mean it won't migrate.

phochief

5:07 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Over the last week I haven't seen any changes at all for my three primary keyword phrases on 66.102.9.104. We're #16 for two of them, and #22 for the other keyword. The big online retailers still have the top four spots along with several review sites. Not as good as my previous #4 and #6 spots, but I can live with it.

After waiting twelve months, our website emerged from the sandbox in September and landed on the first page.....we didn't get to stay there very long though. If we're sliding down now, will we continue to go down further? (Assuming we're not being penalized for something).

Gimp

5:13 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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There is never time to do something right the first time. But there is always time to fix what you did not do right the first time.

It seems that a lot of webmasters on this board are now fixing that which they did not do right the first time.

Google, take your time! Do it right the first time. Keep J3 under control until you have it right. Forget the ranting and raving here. Do it right the first time.

But do be kind enough to keep us advised. This is like being stuck in an airport and not knowind when, or if, your flight will be scheduled.

Yes, we know that the Google competitors are watching this board, and others, and taking all our feedback as lesson materials, so we understand that you must be circumspect. But please give us some idea as to what is going on. Some of us use the money we earn to pay people so we have to have information to plan.

colin_h

5:21 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



Hi Gimp,

I agree that Google should test, test & test again before release.

With hindsight I wish I had left everything alone back in July. I changed my site over to css and lost all listings. At first I blamed Google for my mistakes, but now I see that the small company cannot expect the larger ones to change just for them.

I have had to cut back on contract staff as it looks as though business will be a long time in returning to pre July levels. But I think this upheaval has made me a lot more realistic about the Internet and for the first time ever I've taken out an ad in a national magazine ... a big step for me.

I now have a new goal ... get big and buy listings ;-)

Gimp

5:32 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This J3 thing has diverted me from the Adwords and Overture pay per click programs.

For me the organic listings are a profit center and support a given staff so I have had to get into them to see what is going on.

Pay per click is fast cash. Do your homework and go. Work it off a low credit limit credit card to start. Too many people ignore it.

Don't rely on search engine position in the organic listings to survive. When you do, you give your life to an algo. It has control. Use pay per click. You are in constant, instant, and all those other words, control.

Look at all the screaming here. People have no control. Get control.

Pay per click, newspapers, articles, and so on. Diversify.

reseller

5:38 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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colin_h

>>I agree that Google should test, test & test again before release. <<

I don't think that the delay is about testing. IMO, its about that the folks at the plex aren't satisfied yet of Jagger3. Moreover Jagger3 was supposed to deal with canonical- and supplementals issues. Maybe the folks at the plex wish to pay those two issues more attention before let Jagger3 migrate to other DCs. Lets hope so.

Gimp

5:43 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Of course. And it may be a lot more.

Regardless of what it is, test, test and when you think it is right, test it again. Once you release it, we will smoke test it. So Google, forget us on this board and make it right the first time.

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