Update Saga. Part 5

[Brett_Tabke]

What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

[zikos]

"Why not have a site review process?"
why not go there and report
[google.com...]
by this way the junk will go away and the white pages will come back ,there are thousands of volunteers out there.

[Gimp]

Zikos - there is a lot more to it than spam reports. Sites get trashed for reasons only known to an algo. The site owner may be whitehat. But the site owner may not know the algo rule that was violated. The algo may be intended to correct one abuse, but it may penalize people who were not abusing. A human review might be able to correct that.

[lee_sufc]

With the end of Jagger looming - is there still chance of some flux?

Also, another quick question, if I use allinanchor:, allintitle: and / or allintext: in google, my site shows roughly where it used to be pre-Jagger - why then, am I now a few pages down on many keywords? Someone mentioned yesterday I could be sandboxed (but I have never been before) or I could have been penalised (which I couldn't find a reason for!)

[tigger]

>With the end of Jagger looming - is there still chance of some flux?

its whats happened after most of the major updates in the past and what a lot of webmasters around here are hoping for - myself included

[lee_sufc]

ok tigger, thanks for the info - i normally get through all updates pretty much unharmed but this one makes up for that!

[Dayo_UK]

Although MC and GG have said it has finished from there point of view - there point of view could be different from our point of view of when things have finished.

EG. GG and MC would probably say it was finished when all the code is out on a DC (and I assume that this is the case on the 66.102.9.104 DC.)

However, from our point of view the update is over when all that code has had an effect on our websites - now if that code has lead to a change in the indexing - then IMO it needs to have a (few) crawl(s) based on the new code for the new index to develop.

Which maybe why there is normally a bit of flux after updates and why people come back or drop even a while after an update and are wondering why there is no update thread at WebmasterWorld.

That is me being very optomistic though. The real me things what is being shown on 66.102.9.104 will pretty much be what we get.

[lee_sufc]

Dayo - I hope for people like me, you and Tigger that things do improve...

[reseller]

Dayo_UK

>>That is me being very optomistic though. The real me things what is being shown on 66.102.9.104 will pretty much be what we get. <<

I guess your very optimistic side is still valid. Just keeping in mind the flux that followed Bourbon and the changes which took place during it, should keep you and the affected fellow members on the optimistic side :-)

[Dayo_UK]

Maybe Reseller - but we should not hold on to false hope either.

[tigger]

I'm with reseller, Bourbon did kick me hard and it took a good few months to pull back the lost traffic and every since then I've ridden out the updates till this one! so hopefully we will see another tweak as the serps I'm looking at don't look very healthy at all, in fact one terms I've just checked has the number one slot taken by a guy using a redirect on a doorway!