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I was hit hard by the Dec 7th change and I know several others too. I'd like to get some feedback from those affected hopefully track down what our sites have in common so we can hopefully do something about it. Here's what I believe to be the relevant stats about my site. Please post some stats about yours and whether or not you were affected (positive or negative) by this change.
Type of Site: credit cards
Age: 2.5 years
- 50% from syndicating articles
- 20% bought
- 10% from link directories
- 20% "natural"
Outbound Links: Only one, but ROS exchange with an Australian credit card site
Has outbound affiliate links: Yes
Does url re-writing: Yes
Sub-Domains: One for a forum
Rank before: 1-5 for primary keywords
Rank after: 18 - not found for primary keywords
[edited by: tedster at 3:34 am (utc) on Dec. 14, 2006]
Uses Adsense: Yes
Uses Analytics: Yes
Number of other sites: 8
Number of other domains: 35
Domains 301 to this address: 2
Total pages: 495
New pages this month: 65
Significantly modified pages this month: 30
Please post your stats. This shouldn't be that hard to figure out if we just have a good test sample to work with.
Personally I find it to be dispicable. Fine, if they don't a link then just ignore it. But to blow a site away for it? That stinks. It's plain spiteful.
I can't see any way back from it now. I think we are goosed.
whow - I'm back on 14 DC's today.
With an "allins" request I'm 4 x back.
Curious: The "allins" positions are better than before (new #5 / #7 before) :O)
It is still not noticable with Adsense or number of visitors, but I'm optimistic for the next days now.
I wish for all the guys here the same positive effects and all the good positions back (or better), I think we can still hope for a big turkey at christmas :O)
Nice forum, I'll be back again in future too. I've an own community in Germany, but here I can train my English.
[edited by: tedster at 12:37 pm (utc) on Dec. 14, 2006]
I thought I might have been something to do with a load of old pages I removed from the server that Gsitemaps picked up - when I added them all back in, i appeared in the index again, but who knows!
I have not made any changes at all on my site apart from the above over the last 2 months - just added a few inbound link etc.
Hope that this just a temp thing!
Penalisation aside what other reasons (i.e screw ups) could there be for such wild swings? All this smacks of old data to me especially old backlink data.
In walkman's case when the site is #1 Google is saying that this is THE most relevant result for the query. Then suddenly it turns around and says "I must have been drunk when I said that, there are actually 49 more relevant results than this".
It's the wild swings that frustrate me the most.
When Twiglet put forward the idea of a sudden influx of incoming links, I checked that. And there it was, as I mentioned above. A link to us had been added to two sites owned by the same guy in his sitewide navigation bar. This was maybe a month or so ago.
So I reckon in my case that is it. Those bozo's at Google think that this makes me some sort spammer site and the site has a penalty. That is why I used the word pathetic. Because that is what it is.
What is it they say there? "Do no evil" or something? Yeh, right. And a happy Christmas to you too Google.
Existence in danger and most of these guys, don't know what they've done wrong. Me too...
As I said yesterday; Better would be to kick the sites out, because we know what we have to do then.
I am still hoping, it's an error and unintended by Google.
To fighting against ALL seos is counterproductive.
9 days without mentionable takings :o( hard stuff...
Nah mate your a scraper. Not gonna help you. And by the way incase you really are german (I think your polish) 2 world wars and 1 world cup ENGLAND!
I'm sure there's no scrabber. Otherwise he scrabbed the whole internet or unless the half community resp. all the guys who've written the same problem here. God save the machine...