Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

[jretzer]

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Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

[Interent Yogi]

My Observations on about the 12 sites that I monitor is that the three that I have done a bit of work with reciprocal links have been hammered. I can understand Google needs to present the best results that they can and my guess is that they have given less weight to reciprocals. I am always approached for 3 way links and have not been keen on the idea as one site is building which has the links going to it and the other is not. The thing with reciprocal links is that there is an element of peer review, which does help maintain a certain amount of quality.

My main site has dropped about 10 places average which had a lot of number one results for ** Niche product Country ** Now there are sites that IMO are not relevant to the searches.

Another old site I have which is a really poor excuse for a site is now cleaning up on a heap of searches out of the blue ones that my main site had a few days ago. No Reciprocal links one incoming link maybe 2? But one page with about 20 out going links into each of the main pages of my top site. Meant as a crude way to redirect traffic to the new URL . The one thing that I do not understand about that is how can this be considered an authority site when the site it is linking to is not one?

I hope google has a few more tweaks to do on this one.

[edited by: Interent_Yogi at 2:24 am (utc) on Oct. 19, 2005]

[blend27]

Looks like G-Bot been busy respidering old urls, observation is based on actual data. URIs have not been spidered for the past 4 month.

Please confirm if you see the same.

[Yippee]

I told you people...

We should have called it "Matt Cutts a Stinky One"

[Ledfish]

Well, I feel lucky compared to many of you when it comes to rank, I lost just a few spots for my most prized phrase, so while it is not what I hoped, it is far from devastating.

While I know many of you want your rank back, I would like it if Google would provide us with a tried and true way though to help ourselves by really removing pages that we have attempted to remove via the removal tool. I also tried to remove some dynamic duplicate content pages through the removal tool the other day, but it said that using the "*" as a wildcard as in /*? was not valid, even though Google's site tells you to do this to remove dynamic pages. I put in a help request via the online forum, but have not gotten any kind of response yet, not even a confirmation that they received the e-mail.

Of course it would also be nice if 301's worked as they should as well.

[blend27]

>> Confused why you think his update would improve result .

its the oposit >>> shopping season + stock dropped

I dont mean to sarcastic...........

[steveb]

"Just don't assume the sky is falling from first impressions..."

Well, the first impression of an old page on my site that was deleted in March 2004 outranking my current pages, that is not a good first impression. Sort of like opening the front door and a guest setting fire to you. As long as the guest doesn't set off a thermonuclear device in the bathroom the update should not be worse...

Still GG, it would be great if Google did something positive for a change. We can hope for that. It would be nice to see that. So far the first impressions are an utter disaster.

Please now impress us instead. I'd like that.

(I'd also like you to obey 301s for supplemental pages... and only rank pages that actually exist...)

[Yippee]

Ahhhh, I see. So this update has everything to do with geo-location. Good luck Google in picking up if searchers want local or global/Internet resources.

Geo-location stuff is useless on the web (reference to an earlier comment on this thread from GG). I can go to any drug store website and find the nearest pharmacy. Geo-location crap/strategy is out. I guess I ruined the opportunity of GG quoting me huh :p

PS. Our IP is registered in Jersey and we are in DC... LOL all the luck to you man.

[edited by: Yippee at 2:31 am (utc) on Oct. 19, 2005]

[RobinL]

WHY DO I CREATE WEBSITES?

I can't stand this, we are content, that's it, no affiliate, no ecomerce. We create about 50 pages of totally original, researched, content each day. I've spend hundreds of thousands of dollars paying the salaries of a very talented editorial staff. We smoke our competition on quality and amounts of content. This past week we had reviews of two of the new products in our space, full reviews, one 6,000 words and one 12,000 words, and these are hot products, will be some of the biggest sellers of the holiday season. We have the first reviews on the web. And no movement. none.

This is all BS. I work so hard to create good informative websites that really help people. I'm in virtually every national news organization, praised for our quality content and ethics, but Google won't put any of the new sites we've launched this past year and a half anywhere on or near the first 15 results.

The main site I'm upset about has been up for 13 months. It's 17th for the term that defines what we do. 0 movement with this update. The term is the name of our profession if you will. Major corporations, in fact, most of them fortune 100s, trust us with their products to review and consider us in the top 5 sites. We've been featured in the Boston Globe, New York Times, USA Today, CBS, Fox News, CNN, MSNBC. I was on CNN because of our ethics regarding publishing! Is there anything more white hat?

Our sites are in Google News. They're in Froogle. Next week we're going to be the next AdSense case study! WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT ORGANIC LISTINGS? Any and every department at the Googleplex that has humans involved in reviewing sites loves us, don't you think that maybe, just maybe, it says something about the organic results if we can't rank or get any respectable amount of traffic?

I'm young. I can find a new career. Why should I make websites if it's impossible to get them traffic because Google is afraid of new sites. Why should I spend my own hard earned money to contribute information and knowledge to the web when no one reads it.

Right now I'm half on the verge of tears and half ready to pull out my hair in anger. I think this may be a sign that I need a new career, because my plan of creating niche content to help people won't work.

[edited by: RobinL at 2:45 am (utc) on Oct. 19, 2005]

[blend27]

.... Take a chance on me.....if roll along ... let me shine, thats all I ask of you.. so much that I want to do.... you want me to leave the dance?.. My love is srtong .... I am still free, why cant you see?....

Sorry, i got 70's on.

Abba

edit: gotta have a sence of humor.

[aliszka]

G__gle doesn't give a da_n about webmasters, the only thing they care about is lining their pockets, greed will topple them, you heard it here first! IMO