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Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

         

jretzer

5:33 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Continued from here:
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Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

reseller

10:00 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi Folks

The name is:

Update Jagger

I like it. As good as Bacon Polenta :-)

2by4

10:01 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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zeus, yes they look the same, if your site was not affected. That's what makes this an interesting update.

Re some stuff in the closed thread:

"<div id="Layer1" style="position:absolute; left:205px; top:156px; width:16px; height:16px; z-index:-1; overflow: auto;">"

I was virtually positive that google wasn't processing css library files, now it looks like they are likewise unable to process reasonably clever onpage css, notice no triggers here, not hidden, not display none, not negative positioning, off view window, just small. Not bad actually, now we know, google cannot interpret most css, unless it's really really obvious. That's from the site mentioned earlier, car wraps etc.

I'm seeing little or no changes in the serps that are changed [what is being named 'update jagger' now], same as they were testing a week ago, same as went live yesterday, if google is testing something, and they turn it off and on, then finally release it system wide, I'd call that an update, even though following the strict interpretation, which no longer really applies, none of these things are updates, they are just adjustments of the dial, quote unquote. Note steveb, I didn't say that Matt C etc did, the dial is new, updates are old. Updates are a physical change or addition to the algo, thus the term : update, whereas what we're seeing now is an adjustment of a setting/s.

Since it doesn't matter what we call it, why not just call it an update and leave it at that, everyone whose sites have been affected know they are affected, people whose sites haven't been affected can provide quite valuable comparisons to try to determine just what this change actually looked for, trustrank is what I'm seeing, high trustrank sites, no change, low trustrank, change. Spammy sites can have high trust rank, I see a few, but they did some stuff over the last year that made that happen.

FattyB

10:09 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Jagger eh, well let us hope for 'A Bigger Bang' shortly.

Also a rolling stone gathers no moss, much like an everflux search engine...in theory.

I won't mention satisfaction, mars bars or neocons.

I am hopeful of further changes over the next few days. I have a funny feeling our site will see a lot of pagerank increases...though that would be at odds with traffic decreasing and with the whole visible PR reflect changes that are already in place...be interesting few days.

[edited by: FattyB at 10:14 pm (utc) on Oct. 18, 2005]

steveb

10:14 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I like the Stones, but...

why did my mind immediately link the Stones to the word "Supplemental"

Instead of the Stones playing Las vegas, Google is lobbying to have a cache of a 1974 performance played...

2by4

10:22 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"why did my mind immediately link the Stones to the word "Supplemental""

I'd guess because you're spending too much time thinking about that term, try as I might, I couldn't come up with any workable relation between the stones and supplemental, and I actually tried. I don't see much point in worrying about what is just a side affect of a bigger change, that's all that makes that interesting. The bigger change, that's much more interesting, all those dials, it's like a new toy, let's play with it, no? [note: new meaning 1 year old or less]

[edited by: 2by4 at 10:23 pm (utc) on Oct. 18, 2005]

walkman

10:22 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)



>> I like it. As good as Bacon Polenta

I vote to make that B#*$!x Pxxxxxx automatically next time one enters it here.

Jane_Doe

10:23 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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high trustrank sites, no change, low trustrank, change.

I almost agree with your 2x4. Except I'd say high trust rank sites went up, instead of no change.

zeus

10:24 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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2by4 - well I have not looked at my own sites yet I just typed a few search wich I do everyday and nothing.

Steveb - maybe it should be cald supplemental update, because I have seen more of those.

2by4

10:24 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Jane_doe, yes, I'm sorry, that's what I see too, although I didn't want to put too much into my limited sample, the move up however is much more subtle than the drop down.

It's good to see someone else finding the same thing though. On sites that seem to be benefitting from this improvement, traffic has been inching up all last week, this weekend, slowly but surely, higher and higher, but not overwhelming, just what you'd expect from an improved trust rank rating, little boosts here and there, some big boosts.

Zeus, if I only had one group of sites I do, let's call it niche x, y, and z, I would see no change at all. Well, no, that's not true, I see some moves up in almost all of them, but they aren't that major.

However, once I add topic z to the mix, that's a competitive, hilltop type thing, lots of adwords etc, I see really big changes, things have been rolling around there for a month or so, but it finally all kicked into place. Big drops.

[edited by: 2by4 at 10:29 pm (utc) on Oct. 18, 2005]

skipfactor

10:28 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>I vote to make that B#*$!x P#*$!xxx automatically next time one enters it here.

Matt's Googlebombing. ;)

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